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[–]Throw3234561 point1 month, 4 weeks ago

That's not how "we" is used.

>it [we] doesn’t mean I’m one of the people doing this

It heavily implies it. Are you ESL?

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[–]Square-Awareness-8851 point1 month, 4 weeks ago

The alternative would be to say “they” and that in turn would imply I’m a woman. I am ESL and yet seems like I have better mastery over your language than you do. Maybe it only “heavily implies” it to you because you haven’t actually read much beyond reddit posts, but literature uses it all the time (e.g. see any political speech where a person is criticizing their own country, they use ‘we’, like bernie sanders complaining how ‘we’ have the highest drug prices in the world)

Study your own language a bit more ;) Q.E.D.

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[–]Throw3234561 point1 month, 4 weeks ago

The correct alternative would be to use the noun 'men' as a subject.

It's not rocket science ;)

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[–]Square-Awareness-8851 point1 month, 4 weeks ago

Both are fine, and I gave you an example as to why. You didn’t address it

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[–]Throw3234561 point1 month, 4 weeks ago

Your example implies a collective responsibility. It actually undermines your point.

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[–]Square-Awareness-8851 point1 month, 4 weeks ago

We do share a collective responsibility in this case. Even if not every man is doing stuff like this. You’re not very bright

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[–]Throw3234561 point1 month, 4 weeks ago

Do women also have a responsibility here?

If not, why not? In either case, can you demonstrate how I am responsible for this, somehow?

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[–]Square-Awareness-8851 point1 month, 4 weeks ago

Members of a class that is harming another through social structures share collective responsibility in removing or at least not reinforcing that structure.

You’re responsible but only in the sense that you have a responsibility to eliminate and not reinforce an unfair social structure that benefits you. You seem to be really fixated in the “I don’t do this” aspect of the argument and less in the societal one. It’s really not a big deal to admit that society benefits some times of people in some unfair ways and we benefit from that sometimes (any group btw, not just men). I’m not pointing a finger accusing you of doing something bad but you seem to think I am

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[–]Throw3234561 point1 month, 4 weeks ago

>Members of a class that is harming another through social structures share collective responsibility in removing or at least not reinforcing that structure.

Yeah, I understand you think this, but why? Why do I have that responsibility? Can you provide an argument?

>You seem to be really fixated in the “I don’t do this” aspec

I'm asking you a relatively simple question: Why do you think I have this responsibility? Can you demonstrate it, or is it just your whimsy? If it's just your whimsy, well, I think you have the responsibility to lick my balls. What now?

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