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Honest question, more of a "food for thought" thing. Imagine for a second it wasn't SE that did this, was there any chance anyone else (company or individual) could have screwed over Mare?
given the post is so vague it's entirely possible it wasn't SE and could've been some other company or individual, like someone being upset their $500 mod is being shared around through mare. i know the dev said not to speculate, but it is a little concerning not knowing if this is someone or some company with a vendetta or sqaure actually cracking down on mods
The announcement did not specify, but there's a screenshot that was posted a couple of hours before the announcement was made, which said "a C&D from SE".
https://i.redd.it/eujhjg6ypdkf1.png
Edit: Found another one that doesn't crop out the messages in between: https://imgur.com/a/g5UJTfs
That's a good theory, but I believe that if it were the case then the DMCA takedown from the individual would see Mare just deleting the files from their servers and banning everyone involved.
do we know if it was a DMCA or C&D though? the announcement just says "legal inquiry" and the best avenue they decided was to shut down instead of fight it (i.e. look at all the Stellar Blade or Kingdom Hearts ports, it could be a company overstepping their legal boundaries and the dev just not having the time or money to fight it) i mean Occam's razor is certainly a thing and i'm more inclined to believe SE did this, but it's just so vague
But would a mod author like this have any legal ground to stand on? Considering that selling a mod like that is itself against TOS
Mods aren't allowed, and all the assets belong to SE, so no one but SE can contest them legally.
i mean, there have been ported character mods for other games that get taken down, it's still an intellectual property violation, no? there's an avenue for companies to take legal action since the mods themselves don't exist on the actual FFXIV servers, they're being served over github or some other site/CDN
Not impossible. I would hope that the mare team have vetted the actual legal request thoroughly, but a youtuber had a video exploring the xiv mod scene blocked in many countries due to a takedown request by someone featured in it for "violating privacy": https://bsky.app/profile/oohboy.mooncat.cafe/post/3lwerzftrgc23
This is the saddest shit I’ve seen in some time
heh deserved, know that guy ingame and he is a fucking asshole
How do you know me ingame? I don't talk.
Payment processors lol
Its a non-zero possibility, could've def been a law enforcement thing. Its obviously not in squares best interest to do this unless their hand is being forced. The xiv epstien list thing that popped up a month or so ago could've (and honestly shouldve) easily garnered legal ire, but who knows
"The xiv epstien list thing"
the what now
edit since i don't wanna reply to everyone: Jesus Christ...
this has been a thing for a while now, but some time back the mare dev reiterated that there will be no leeway when users get caught using mods to sexualize underage characters, and will be banned from the main server. this caused those who got banned to fork and make their own mare server, where they continued to do the aforementioned
It's a list of people who use Penumbra and Mare to sell and advertise mods with assets that include sexualized underage characters (which means actual child models, not Lalas). A few of them were also accused of doing outright illegal stuff related to real underage people (most famously someone underage selling their own nudes)
The "epstein list" label is something that only very recently got attached to it (the actual list is years old) by what seems to be a former member of a questionable modding group that simply felt slighted and tried to burn bridges. They released a "newer" list with less evidence and weaker accusations and attached it to the old list, kinda, but used the flashy label to get attention. The authors of the original list even called them out for it.
It ended up being more shitty drama than a genuine expose on bad actors within XIV.
Someone put together and publicized a list of players modding underaged character models. It got some attention but ultimately didn't make headlines.
the what that popped up a month or so ago
UK online safety act was my first guess.