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The correct alternative would be to use the noun 'men' as a subject.
It's not rocket science ;)
Just saw you’re a proudly self-proclaimed sexist. Are you baiting me into (and losing) this stupid semantics debate because you couldn’t address my original point but the juvenile rage inside you caused you to need to find something to reply to? And arguing over which pronoun I should use is what you landed on?
Your "original point" was nebulous enough that half a dozen people commented on it. You would have to clarify your semantics in this case before we could debate anything.
And yet every person commenting on it had the same issue: thinking I’m talking about them specifically. It’s not a misunderstanding, it’s emotional immaturity that makes you think this in this context. Again, when people criticize their own countrymen (or even fandoms for that matter) for their behavior, they use “we” and nobody feels the need to butt in with “but I don’t do that!”
In your other post, you've claimed men share a responsibility. That would include me, and presumably the other people questioning why this would be the case. There doesn't seem to be a clear reason why we would be responsible.
It would be like if I said you and I are now collectively responsible for the cost of the Taco Bell I just ordered, and justified this by saying: "Well, we're both men!". You might question why you're included in this particular instance; posit that, actually, your gender doesn't demonstrate why you would be responsible for this; argue that, as you didn't order the Taco Bell, it's not really your responsibility at all.
So why am I lumped into yours?
I'd also make a point of noting that your smugness in all of this is bizarre. You seem to think you're making an argument on par with the Cartesian first principle, but in reality, you're a flailing retard who can barely string a sentence together, let alone a coherent argument. Whatever you reply with, I bet money that if I formalized it, it would not demonstrate a collective responsibility.
“The Cartesian First Principle” is “I think therefore I am”, which is really one of the most if not the most basic philosophy 101 arguments. Was that you trying to sound smart?
This is like saying "Newton's first law is basic physics". That doesn't make the Principia less profound, or Newton dumb. You are not Newton. You are not Descartes. You are not putting forward a profound argument. You are not even able to put forward an argument at all, it seems.
Edit to say you should have left your original reply in. It was better to play this all off as a low effort troll, IMO.
Both are fine, and I gave you an example as to why. You didn’t address it
Your example implies a collective responsibility. It actually undermines your point.
We do share a collective responsibility in this case. Even if not every man is doing stuff like this. You’re not very bright
Do women also have a responsibility here?
If not, why not? In either case, can you demonstrate how I am responsible for this, somehow?
Members of a class that is harming another through social structures share collective responsibility in removing or at least not reinforcing that structure.
You’re responsible but only in the sense that you have a responsibility to eliminate and not reinforce an unfair social structure that benefits you. You seem to be really fixated in the “I don’t do this” aspect of the argument and less in the societal one. It’s really not a big deal to admit that society benefits some times of people in some unfair ways and we benefit from that sometimes (any group btw, not just men). I’m not pointing a finger accusing you of doing something bad but you seem to think I am
>Members of a class that is harming another through social structures share collective responsibility in removing or at least not reinforcing that structure.
Yeah, I understand you think this, but why? Why do I have that responsibility? Can you provide an argument?
>You seem to be really fixated in the “I don’t do this” aspec
I'm asking you a relatively simple question: Why do you think I have this responsibility? Can you demonstrate it, or is it just your whimsy? If it's just your whimsy, well, I think you have the responsibility to lick my balls. What now?