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So in your mind literally everyone is Elon's slave? Or the board members'? Or shareholders'? Get a grip. They are choosing to work there for money - of course they have certain responsibilities that come with that paycheck. They can choose to work for the millions of other employers or work for themselves. Calling that slavery is insulting to all the people who have ever been actual slaves.
Choosing your slave matter doesn't change the reality that you're working for someone else's benefit
So, people should only ever benefit...themselves, eh? Cool worldview, but I think I'll continue to do my job by choice and be paid for that work, thanks.
Lol you're literally defending a system where the only incentive that exists is getting more money for yourself and defending Billionaires who literally operate on that exact principle, but I suggest that people produce cooperatively and I'm the one with a selfish worldview? Hilarious. You want billionaires to be ruthlessly selfish, but as soon as workers demand even the basics of dignity and agency, they're the greedy ones? There's no worldview more selfish than the one that only knows how to reward greed. I get that you like to be dominated, but there are better ways to explore that fetish than by deep throating billionaire boot.
No, you simply don't recognize that employment IS co-operation. You are opting in, you are agreeing to the terms, you can leave if you want. Stop calling it slavery; it's insulting to actual slaves. You are free to work for yourself if you'd like. You're also free to join or start a co-op or commune or whatever else.
Employment is not cooperation, because your boss is not your equal. They are your superior. Cooperation implies that the parties taking part are equals. Like I said, the ability for anyone to leave their job and go be exploited by a different slave master doesn't change the reality of the situation that the workers spend their entire lives working to enrich the slave owners. I would welcome a works that worked as you describe where anyone can simply choose to work for themselves, but we both know that that isn't the reality. The wage system is designed to keep workers from accumulating enough capital to make that a reality.
Nothing about cooperation implies anything to do with the standing of the parties involved. Even so, the fact that tens of millions of people work for themselves refutes your point. Anecdotally, I worked for myself for 10 years and then CHOSE to work for a company. CHOSE. You would say I am a slave and yet I am telling you straight up it is what I chose. There's no way around it not being slavery. You should stick to the same language other early-20-something's who just finished Das Kapital use which is "exploit". Then at least there is a subjective element to it and you have an argument, albeit a weak argument.
Yes you chose it. People choose to be a slave all the time. I'm telling you there are healthier ways to explore that fetish without subjecting everyone else to it. Just because you like to be ordered around and get off on being dominated doesn't mean it's right that you didn't have the option not to be dominated to begin with. I'm genuinely happy for you that you have no problems with your cage. I'm honestly kind of jealous in that regard.
That being said, I think this conversation is done. You don't really have anything to add that I haven't heard a million times by people trying to justify authoritarians in the past, and it's pretty clear that you won't be swayed by me either, so there's not much value here for either of us. I would just like to remind you to keep yourself under control next time your boss yells at you for being a worm with a tiny dick or whatever your humiliation fetish is. Cumming in your pants at work is a bad look
Lol I'm telling you to engage in any kind of arrangement you'd like and I'm the authoritarian. When, in fact, if I pressed you hard enough you will ultimately be willing to use violence to enforce your ideology. Mine requires no such force. Unless you're prepared to say you would not force socialism on people violently in which case we are mostly allies.