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DiscussionCapping aoe while leaving some specs uncapped was dumb(self.wow)
submitted 5 years ago* (edited 1 day, 3 hours after) by itchni:horde::shaman: to /r/wow (3.1m)
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I'm playing an Enh shaman and my entire aoe burst window is uncapped. I can get 3x crash lightning a...

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[–][deleted]25 points5 years ago* (edited 4 months, 4 weeks after)
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[–]Pwnage_Peanut:alliance::paladin: 21 points5 years ago

That's rite, a kilugrem of steal

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[–][deleted]6 points5 years ago

Wrong way, down a one-way street!

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[–]Monk-Ey:alliance::druid: 3 points5 years ago

Superheavy rogues?

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[–]Arkayjiya-16 points5 years ago* (edited 3 minutes after)

Probably a kilogram of steel. Steel is more dense, so with a similar shape, the centre of mass of the steel will be closer to the ground that the center of mass of the feather meaning gravity applied to it is slightly stronger and therefore while it has the same mass as the feathers its weight is heavier.

That assume two similar piles with similar shapes on relatively flat ground next to each other.

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[–]Longjumping-Chart-867 points5 years ago

Weight = mass * gravity. Both weigh the same, because both have a mass of 1 kilogram and gravity is a constant.

The rest of your comment has nothing to do with the weight.

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[–]Arkayjiya2 points5 years ago* (edited 7 hours, 2 minutes after)

Gravity isn't constant that's what the rest of my comment is about, Gravity depend on the distance to the centre of mass of the earth. The formula has a d² as the divider, meaning the smaller d is, the greater the gravity. Since with the assumptions I've established d is smaller for steel than for feathers, the weight is heavier. "d" is calculated by taking the distance between Earth's centre of mass and the object centre of mass. That's what makes the steel heavier.

We can even calculate by how much: Steel has a density of 7.8 while feathers is 0.0025 (variable but that seems to be the only figure I could reliably find. I'm using kg/L as the unit for m & V since it's convenient so that's why my density is technically not a density but a volumique mass). Since density is m/V and we've established they have the same mass, the volume of steel is 7.8/0.0025 = 3120 times greater. Since what we're interested is the distance to Earth's centre of mass, we're only interested in one of the three dimension that form the volume so 31201/3 = 14.6.

The kilo of steel will be 14.6 times smaller (in height) than the kilogram of feather. Since they both weighs 1 kg, that means the steel is about (1/7.8)1/3 = 0.5 decimetre of height (since Litre is dm3) or 5 cm. This assume it's a cube but it's just an example, the reasoning would be the same with a brick, the numbers would just change a bit. The centre of mass would be about halfway so 0.25 dm high or 0.025m.

Using the same reasoning for the feathers, you can situate their centre of mass at about 0.36 m (which is as predicted about 14.6 times higher). Since gravity is inversely proportional to the square of Earth's radius + the centre of mass' height, that means the kilo of steel is about (6,371,000.36)²/(6,371,000,025)² = 1.00000001 times heavier than the kilo of feathers (it will vary depending on the place considering the Earth isn't round which incidentally means gravity isn't even constant on Earth's surface).

Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk. Seriously this started as a joke I made about pointless overthinking and now I'm answering people who were telling me "no you're wrooooooong" with even more overthinking. I guess I didn't learn my own lesson xD

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[–]dreadwraith8d:horde::deathknight: 2 points5 years ago

but steel is heavier than feathers.

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[–]Arkayjiya1 point5 years ago

Well yes that's what I just said. Steel is more dense which end up making it heavier. For the detailed answer see my answer to the second person commenting below me.

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