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DiscussionPSA: JRPG's are in fact, RPG's(self.videogames)
submitted 3 weeks, 5 days ago by [deleted] to /r/videogames (532.5k)
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Seeing a lot of people kinda write off this genre in the wake of E33 sweeping the game awards. Sayin...

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[–]DisMFer13 points3 weeks, 5 days ago

I get the main argument that it's insane to get upset at a game winning an award but E33 is a totally linear experience where the player has no agency or "role." Most JRPGs are like that. Saying that they are RPGs because you have a leveling system is like saying Farcry is a RPG.

You can't even pick classes in the game so you can't even build out a party to suit a playstyle.

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[–][deleted]3 points3 weeks, 5 days ago

Levelling systems, intricate builds, questing, party compositions are all things id say qualify it as a role playing game.

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[–]DisMFer9 points3 weeks, 5 days ago

Every game has a leveling system these days. And E33 doesn't have build, quests, or even party composition since you don't get to choose a character's class all the builds are a linear upgrade path and the whole game is a linear story so there are no quests.

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[–]andocommandoecks6 points3 weeks, 4 days ago

Saying there aren't builds or party composition in E33 is just factually false. They're not especially deep but they're there.

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[–]AlmightyCraneDuck4 points3 weeks, 4 days ago

No builds? No party composition? Did you interact with the game at all?

Let's take Lune for example. You can go full on DPS with her and pick up skills like Mayhem, Thunderfall, Hell, etc and use Trebuchim to help build up Stain to power those more stain-heavy skills.

OR you could turn her into a Healer. Grab Snowim and skills like Rebirth, Revitalization, and Typhoon to prioritize healing the party, healing yourself, and mixing in a little bit of damage here and there.

It's no sphere grid, but those elements are 100% there.

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[–]DisMFer0 points3 weeks, 4 days ago

Or you can pick all of them because the game crams level ups at you like crazy.

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[–]AlmightyCraneDuck3 points3 weeks, 4 days ago

Except you can’t. You can only have 6 skills active at a time and one weapon equipped. You also need to invest a lot of resources into leveling up said weapons to get enough scaling and the best effects. But of course you would know all of this since you said you dropped 30 hours into the game. I’m mostly explaining it for anybody else who wanders here.

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[–]DisMFer1 point3 weeks, 4 days ago

Six skills is enough to have a wide mix of damage and healing. If you need more than that then you should really look into playing something less intense. For the most part you can just shove any random ass skill in there and get the job done because again it's a totally linear path of upgrades. You don't get a choice in if a character is a spell caster or a melee build or a healer. You have a short list handed to you and are told to pick all of them pretty much without any real effort.

Meanwhile, scaling the weapons is 1) not changing the build since the weapons don't actually change. You can't make the girl with the poker card into a sword build for instance, meaning it's mostly cosmetic because 2) the differences between the weapons range from "why would you need this" to "why would you even pick any other weapon." Especially since there's no "random drops." You unlock the same weapons at the same places every time.

E33 is a totally linear turn-based action-adventure game. It's not my cup of tea but mostly due to the story being agressively French in a way that made me instantly hate everyone in the cast to the point that by the time we're meeting a random as white dude with a beard who is distinct from the earlier random white dude with a beard in ways that would require a team of 30 reserchers spending months in rigious study to detirmine I honestly thought I bought the wrong game because I thought there was no way that huge swaths of people thought that this dreary borning mess was the greatest story ever told in gaming.

What E33 is not is a Role Playing Game. There is no role you play. Unless you count "boring ass European art students backpacking through a shitty LARP session" a role, in which case the game does a great job putting you into that role.

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[–]AlmightyCraneDuck3 points3 weeks, 4 days ago

Hey man, I hope next year your game wins! I genuinely hope that you get to celebrate something that you really enjoy. I really wish that for you.

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[–]DisMFer1 point3 weeks, 4 days ago

Thanks I guess? I don't give a flying fuck about the VGAs because I don't give a shit about anyone's opinion besides my own so the awards don't matter at all. I'm simply commenting on the fact that the game is not an RPG.

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[–][deleted]0 points3 weeks, 5 days ago

Have you played it?

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[–]DisMFer6 points3 weeks, 5 days ago

Yes I played around 30 hours. I don't like the game but that's not relevant here. Calling any game, not just E33, an RPG just because it has leveling means that Role Playing has been reduced to getting levels and upgrades which makes FarCry and RPG.

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[–][deleted]7 points3 weeks, 5 days ago

Then you should know there are definitely builds and side quests you can do.

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[–]CrazedTechWizard4 points3 weeks, 5 days ago

There are easily multiple builds. You can do on each character that emphasizes a different part of their skill tree along with different lumina, loadouts, and weapons that compliment each build. There are plenty of side quests to go on including side quests where you interact with the stories of the side characters of the game. You, in fact, do get to make decisions throughout the story that do change scenes later on. In fact, the end of the game has one big decision that changes the end of the entire game.  You level up stat points, you gain new abilities, there’s multiple weapon and accessory loadouts, you can respect those abilities if you so desire, you get to upgrade weapons like in other RPG‘s.  Just because I’m not playing as a no named shit farmer from medieval times doesn’t mean it’s not an RPG.

Under your definition, kingdom hearts isn’t an RPG. Final Fantasy isn’t an RPG Octopath traveler isn’t an RPG. persona isn’t an RPG. Hell, the RPG darling of last year metaphor isn’t an RPG under your incredibly simplistic definition.

you like a blank slate western RPG game, that’s great for you, but that is not the only type of RPG to exist.  If you could get your head out of the sand for even half a second, you realize you’re wrong.

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[–]chibicascade22 points3 weeks, 4 days ago

They really just need to split the categories. Imagine if they gave and award for "best 3rd person game"

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[–]Current_External65691 point3 weeks, 4 days ago

But the weapons and, I forgot what they're called, pictos(?) dictates how your character plays.

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