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Seeing a lot of people kinda write off this genre in the wake of E33 sweeping the game awards. Sayin...
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There is no or very little roll play in “JRPG”. It’s just watching characters evolve, similar to a tv show or book.
The roll play part, such as one gets from a dungeons and dragons game, where the player actually shapes who the character becomes, is a big defining difference between the genres.
As someone else has pointed out, they are sub divisions of the same genre.
Is final fantasy not an RPG to you?
RPG is the genre, jrpg is a subgenre, not a seperate one.
Like metal: prog, black, death, etc
Disagree. No one uses WRPG, because the term for WRPGs just became RPG.
Likewise, no one would call FFXV an RPG. No one would call Diablo 4 an RPG. No one would call Persona an RPG.
It's MMORPG, ARPG and JRPG. Skyrim is an RPG, so is Kingdom Come. And that's it.
It's pretty obvious because no one describes Guild Wars as an RPG first, and more specifically an MMORPG second as the subgenre. The games genre is MMORPG and that's it, it's not under any umbrella it's its own thing.
This needs to be submitted to a medical journal.
DOOM isn't an FPS, most people call it a boomer shooter or movement shooter rather than an FPS.
Totally separate things, really.
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So you need to have a completely blank slate cardboard protagonist to qualify as an RPG?
Na, you don’t. But i wouldn’t say a game like E33 does a better job of being an RPG than KCD2
RPG is just about the mechanics of the game. if a game has builds/classes, it's an RPG. the foundational core aspect of the genre are builds/classes, since that's what they set out to mimic from ttrpgs. the stats that offered different play styles.
For quite some time RPG has been used for games that have stat allocation, experience system, builds, etc. Even with FPS games like Call of Duty the whole experience system is often called having RPG elements. If you're killing monsters and leveling up, that tends to be called an RPG.
Also when you get down to it, very few video games are actually able to emulate full roleplaying, even in Western RPGs.
For players like me, that is THE defining factor for a truly excellent RPG video game - do they pull off the roll play feeling part? Like many have said here, aspects of video game “rpg” are everywhere. Gearing up, leveling. But the best ones, of course imo, are the one’s where you legit feel like you are shaping your character’s story through roll playing imagination.
Witcher 3, BG3, Cyberpunk 2077, Kingdom Come Deliverance games have been relatively modern examples of games very strong in the “roll play” aspect of RPG video games. And for me, why I enjoy them a lot more than any JRPG type game.
Gotcha, there's just a big difference between whether this defines good RPGs, or whether it defines RPGs period.
Take for example Cyberpunk 2077. Honestly, there isn't that much roleplaying in it. The life paths don't make all that much difference, and most quests only have a couple of real decisions that have impact. I absolutely love the game for it's atmosphere, it's my favorite open world game now. But the actual roleplaying is pretty low, to the point where some people question whether it's really an RPG.
to me its peak rpg because I am 1st person exploring that world as if I’m the character. I’m not watching the story go by watching V like a book or tv character. I am V.
JRPGs don’t give me that feeling.
By that definition, RDR2 is a lot more of an RPG than a lot of jrpgs. I did a lot of role playing as a hunter, bounty hunter, and outlaw in that one.