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DiscussionPSA: JRPG's are in fact, RPG's(self.videogames)
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Seeing a lot of people kinda write off this genre in the wake of E33 sweeping the game awards. Sayin...

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[–]derpsoldier4967 points3 weeks, 5 days ago

I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't JRPG stand for Japanese role-playing game?

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[–]Zalvren56 points3 weeks, 5 days ago

But in this case it's French, so it's a FRPG

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[–]freshairequalsducks96 points3 weeks, 5 days ago

Je'RPG

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[–]iamisandisnt18 points3 weeks, 5 days ago

J’RPG

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[–]Olorin_19909 points3 weeks, 5 days ago

Le’RPG

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[–]jayswag7079 points3 weeks, 5 days ago

Jieux'RPG

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[–]Indraga1 point3 weeks, 4 days ago

C’estRPG

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[–]MulberryNo7510 points3 weeks, 5 days ago

Yes 🤣

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[–]42tfish13 points3 weeks, 5 days ago

It’s actually just RPG but you have to say it really smug like.

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[–]khamike11 points3 weeks, 4 days ago

Arr-pey-jey.

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[–]SnooGrapes62301 point3 weeks, 4 days ago

Arr-Pey-Gee

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[–]-Tektronic-1 point3 weeks, 4 days ago

Awr-Pei-ji

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[–]MajorasShoe1 point3 weeks, 2 days ago

It's a jrpg. Jrpg is a style of the genre. There are American made jrpgs as well. The J is for Japanese because they created the genre.

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[–]jerrathemage1 point3 weeks, 4 days ago

I made this joke once and got massacred lmao

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[–][deleted]21 points3 weeks, 5 days ago

You know what, I think it does.

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[–]lycanthrope903 points3 weeks, 4 days ago

That’s exactly what it stands for. Expedition 33 is French, but it follows in what has become the ‘jrpg style’ which pretty much started with final fantasy.

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[–]MeguBestGirl5 points3 weeks, 5 days ago

Only called that because japan started it with games like dragon quest, final fantasy, etc. Not all rpgs from Japan are jrpgs and not all jrpgs are from japan

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[–]BilboniusBagginius8 points3 weeks, 5 days ago

Dragon Quest was inspired by games like Wizardry. The distinction came when Computer RPGs became more complex and console RPGs mostly stayed in that Dragon Quest format, and were typically made by Japanese developers. They aren't actually different genres, they're all RPGs. 

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[–]lycanthrope901 point3 weeks, 4 days ago

Yup American RPG’s started gravitating more to action elements while Japan sticked with the classic formula.

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[–]BilboniusBagginius2 points3 weeks, 4 days ago* (edited 4 minutes after)

The divide was not about action mechanics, it was more about complexity and interactive storytelling. Compare Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy to Fallout and Baldur's Gate. 

The shift towards action mechanics in the west was a later development, due to RPGs coming to console and trying to appeal to that audience. See Bioware's games over time, going from Baldur's Gate, Kotor, and Dragon Age: Origins, to Mass Effect and Anthem.  Compare classic Fallout to current Fallout. Hell, Final Fantasy is also an example of this. They shifted to action mechanics as the series gained popularity. 

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[–]lycanthrope902 points3 weeks, 4 days ago

Yeah true, I was just giving one early example where they split off a bit.

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[–]GenHero1 point3 weeks, 4 days ago

What Japanese rpg is not a jrpg?

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[–]MeguBestGirl2 points3 weeks, 4 days ago

Easiest answer is like dark souls or elden ring

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[–]anakinjmt0 points3 weeks, 4 days ago

They technically are JRPGs, just not what we normally associate as a JRPG because it isn't turn based combat

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[–]MeguBestGirl2 points3 weeks, 4 days ago

See when you have to use the word "technically" you probably have a better genre than jrpg for those games

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[–]anakinjmt1 point3 weeks, 4 days ago

The confusion lies in what the actual definition of JRPG is. It's easy to call Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest JRPGs, but Elden Ring and Baldur's Gate 3 is more difficult, because the former isn't turn based and the latter wasn't made in Japan. I prefer to just use the simplest definition. It is an RPG made in Japan. The most common JRPG is a turn based kind but it doesn't have to be. It's similar to tokusatsu, which is a specific genre of film/TV in Japan that is just live action special effects, so things like Godzilla, Super Sentai, and Kamen Rider are tokusatsu because they are made in Japan using practical special effects, but Marvel movies are not because they aren't made in Japan. Then you have the oddities like Power Rangers, which adapts tokusatsu footage but also films its own material to supplement it thereby creating a new story, and the most recent Godzilla films, which use a tokusatsu character but are wholly made outside of Japan.

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[–]jinreeko1 point3 weeks, 4 days ago

not all jrpgs are from Japan

Yes they are lol

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[–]Gronodonthegreat3 points3 weeks, 5 days ago

That’s kinda why the term means almost nothing. Sometimes I swear people just label stuff JRPG’s based on vibes.

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[–]BooberSpoobers6 points3 weeks, 4 days ago

Most gaming terms mean nothing and are just based on vibes, lol

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[–]Thin-Fig-88310 points3 weeks, 5 days ago

That’s pretty much it. To a lot people, JRPG means anime and/or turn based. The constant debate on what makes a JRPG and the many different criteria from different people makes my head spin

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[–]lycanthrope900 points3 weeks, 4 days ago

That is a big component to what a jrpg is though, and expedition 33 fits it easily. It’s not just turn based, but the specific turn based style and things like the overworld mechanics (running around until you run into something, turns into a turn based battle).

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[–]Thin-Fig-88312 points3 weeks, 4 days ago

There has been plenty of JRPGS that wasn’t turn based and historically, ARPGs are what early JRPGS were. Turn-Based was never a requirement for being an JRPG

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[–]anorawxia090 points3 weeks, 5 days ago

The correct term is Japanese styled rpg. We had these arguments 20 years ago. Lots of old school websites like gamefaq labelled them that way to this day

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