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[–][deleted]567 points3 years, 4 months ago
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[–]amedema:Bayern_Munich:278 points3 years, 4 months ago

It is nice to see him do well since there’s so much ignorant shit about other leagues that comes from supporters of English clubs.

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[–]watanabelover69:Bayern_Munich:107 points3 years, 4 months ago

Same with Lewy and Barca.

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[–]newbieplaya1:Werder_Bremen:60 points3 years, 4 months ago

Sadly he is doing this in the CL also.

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[–]KaiserWilhelmThe69:FC_Barcelona:75 points3 years, 4 months ago

The agriculturization of Europe has begun

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[–]PotOfMould:Blackburn_Rovers:24 points3 years, 4 months ago

To be fair to them, they get fed that shit by arrogant ex-prem players. Anyone with actual sense could have seen that Haland would suit Man City's ridiculous chance creation.

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[–][deleted]2 points3 years, 4 months ago

It's not unreasonable to expect a player to take a few games or so just to adjust to playing in a new team with a new manager (though Man City did have the look of a team that was built around having an elite striker, even though they hadn't had one for a few seasons). I think people acting like they expected exactly these kinds of performances from Haaland right away are underselling just how great he's been.

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[–]Miyagisans1 point3 years, 4 months ago

I did. I can’t believe everyone just let city waltz up and sign him. Once they did, it was a wrap for me. I said he would score 40+ his first season.

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[–]Holy_Wut_Plane:Pride:-6 points3 years, 4 months ago* (edited 36 minutes after)

Ofc the germans made an english team pay 75m for generational talent Havertz

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[–]amedema:Bayern_Munich:13 points3 years, 4 months ago

He does have the ability to be a genuine world class player. He’s just been terribly misused by Chelsea. Never once did anyone think he should be the front man in an attack. Bayern wanted him for the role Musiala is now filling. So, in a way, thanks Chelsea.

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[–]Holy_Wut_Plane:Pride:9 points3 years, 4 months ago

Incredible, here's an article about him being able to play 5 different roles.

https://onefootball.com/en/news/chelsea-new-boy-kai-havertz-names-the-five-positions-he-can-playand-picks-his-favourite-31073761

Neither German coaches Tuchel and Flick knows how to use him.

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[–]amedema:Bayern_Munich:2 points3 years, 4 months ago

Right, all places Musiala has played except as a striker. Because neither player are out and out forwards. That doesn’t feel tacked onto the end of that statement at all?

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[–]Holy_Wut_Plane:Pride:0 points3 years, 4 months ago

So either the Bundesliga coaches don't know how to use him or Havertz is being bad?

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[–]amedema:Bayern_Munich:1 point3 years, 4 months ago

He was an exceptional player at Leverkusen. I don’t get how that’s hard to understand. There’s a reason so many clubs wanted him. It’s only when he got to Chelsea that he took a downturn.

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[–]Holy_Wut_Plane:Pride:0 points3 years, 4 months ago

I mean he isn't good for Germany either

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[–][deleted]9 points3 years, 4 months ago

The same team paid more than 100m for lukaku as well so it's not just the Germans rinsing English teams.

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[–]Holy_Wut_Plane:Pride:-5 points3 years, 4 months ago

Italian told us he was world class as well. So ofc we are going to put their league on fraud watch.

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[–]Vio0:Borussia_Dortmund:11 points3 years, 4 months ago

If you think everyone is a fraud, maybe it's you.

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[–]Holy_Wut_Plane:Pride:3 points3 years, 4 months ago

Nah just those 2 leagues. La Liga is class

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[–]Holy_Wut_Plane:Pride:1 point3 years, 4 months ago

You shouldn't harass people

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[–][deleted]9 points3 years, 4 months ago

He had already played in PL, so it's not on the Italians.

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[–]Holy_Wut_Plane:Pride:-2 points3 years, 4 months ago

No one thought he was world class in the PL? What's your point

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[–]-dsh:c_FC_Koln:10 points3 years, 4 months ago

and yet a prem club spend 100 million on him.. maybe the problem is scouting

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[–]Holy_Wut_Plane:Pride:-5 points3 years, 4 months ago

Just proves that not everyone can handle the prem.

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[–][deleted]4 points3 years, 4 months ago

Nah, the point is even when you have data proving that your scouting is shit, the pl team still spent 100m+ on Lukaku. A player who had already played in PL and wasn't good enough. So it's not the fault of other leagues. Same for Werner/Havertz.

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[–]Holy_Wut_Plane:Pride:1 point3 years, 4 months ago

Chelsea should have known he still wasn't good I agree with that.

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[–]Prestigious_Agent_841 point3 years, 4 months ago

Has been for 5 years, lol.

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[–]shaw1370:Manchester_United:1 point3 years, 4 months ago

I wish he would have joined bayern munich ༎ຶ⁠‿⁠༎ຶ

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