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No svallinn nerfs? Damn i thought it would be nuked from orbit.
They may have bumped rarity. That is the traditional play for meta dominating items.
It could also just naturally be rarer now that ore isn't guaranteed to spawn every map. If the chance of getting Starfall Crater in a map with ore is the same, then Starfall Crater is effectively rarer which makes Svallin rarer.
You can use a Kirac mod to put ore in every map for 3c each time
Sure, you can also get more ore with scarabs or investing it onto the tree, but presumably not everyone will do that. In Settlers league everyone had ore in every map. In Mercenaries league some people will have ore in every map, while some people will have it in way fewer maps, possibly even none if they block it. Which means that the total portion of maps containing ore across the entire playerbase will still be lower than it was last league. How low depends on how many people use the atlas tree or Kirac mod to increase the odds, but it will definitely be less than 100%.
So the exact numbers may vary, but it's still true that if the odds of a map containing ore having Starfall Crater are the same, then the portion of total maps across the entire league containing it will be lower.
Starfall crater isn't mentioned at all in the patch notes, nor are the other settlers bosses from shipping/mapping encounters. We don't even know if it will be attainable at all.
Settlers is core. The Ores and mining them are core.
Pretty safe to assume Starfall Crater also is core.
I doubt they would include a bug fix for an item that wasn't going to be available in the next league.
I think they said there would be a note in chat box when a starfall crater spawned in a map.
Fairly sure the Gladiator bug fix is the Svalinn nerf. Tbh it explains it's unreasonable effectiveness, lucky is supposed to be good but Svalinn was nuts. Now we know why.
Pretty sure Svalinn only had double block and not tripple block like you suggest.
If it had triple block that would mean you had 96% block chance with Svalinn. And that definitely wasn't the case.
Uh, that's only if that bug applied to Svalinn. Svalinn might be entirely unaffected by the bug.
Given the sheer unreasonableness tank of Svalinn builds (which if you ran the numbers was absolutely not on the level of them getting hit half as often as 2 roll lucky on 65% block against 75%/75% would suggest)... i will await the actual patch for confirmation.
Why the hell would a bug applied to gladiator also apply to Svalinn? You think the line of code said "if(x allocated || Svalinn equipped)"? I imagine the line of code for glad lucky block is entirely indepedent of Svalinn. I played a char with svalinn and a max block eviscerate glad, I blocked a lot more on the glad with worse gear.
Because i know of only 2 sources of lucky block in the game and as a lazy ass developer i know damn well that if you have 2 instances of something, they are almost certain to share the same underlying implementation.
Now, the constrast between triple and double roll lucky is so comical that if you could tell glad is tankier you are probably correct that svalinn was not bugged, but just good (though getting capped block on glad is free, and requires you to wrap your whole build around svalinn on svalinn).
They DO share the same implementation, because PoE is made in C++, and lucky is almost definitely a function. The same function every source of lucky calls, all it does is reroll the number and give the higher result, doesn't really matter what called it.
I suspect glad node accidentally called it twice, but Svalinn didn't.
🤷♂️ svalinn was quite good on other ascendancies too, except maybe Slayer.
That's my point: svalinn was the survivability cheat code for literally every non-Zenith/non-EE build in the league.
wait are you telling me i've been playing with basically triple block calculation on my bleed lacerate glad builds for a whole year? i wonder if this was up all the time or just situational.
This most likely wasn't the case.
Might not be available at all
I doubt they would mention it in the patch notes for a fix a bug if it wasn't going core.
Well, it's going to be in Standard.
It’s not that good
What? It was one of the best defensive items in the game for the past year, so many meta builds used it.
Only people starved for attention says this.