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Well, Biden doesn't believe in evidence-based policy (like Medicare for All producing better health outcomes, fracking being bad for the environment, imperialism impoverishing the wold), so why would the voters?
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Do you honestly believe this nonsense? Or are you just shitposting?
All three examples I gave are true.
Medicare for all cannot pass, so it's not a better outcome than something greater than zero.
Banning fracking will lose PA, so it's a stupid policy. Natural gas is also a requirement for the rollout of renewables, since peaking power will be required until grid storage technology becomes feasible.
"Imperialism" is somewhere between absurdly hyperbolic and just absurd, and "impoverishing the world" is objectively wrong
So no, none of the examples you gave are true.
OK, so for the first two they are only not true because of the peculiarities of the political system? I tend to put objective fact over politics, but that's just me.
You can get natural gas from other places; there is as of yet no need to pump harmful substances into the ground to extract it. But of course the fact that the increased domestic production of fossil fuels, no matter how harmful to the environment, has destabilizing effects on oil and gas exporting countries is a feature.
As for the lifting out of poverty that only happens due to the efforts of anti-imperialist governments like China and Bolivia (under Morales). When their very expensive government programs to alleviate poverty are excluded, the median person in non-Western countries is actually getting poorer.
Turns out being able to implement a policy is part of the "objective fact" surrounding that policy. Democrats know this, which is how they have gotten millions more insured and saved thousands of lives, while the M4A or bust crowd is at a solid 0/0.
At least admit you don't know much about fracking and change the subject. Christ.
Or economics.
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Oh god, China is "anti imperialist". Thanks for that laugh.
as usual with this nonsense, [citation missing]
Look, I get it. Politics and policy are hard, and you've spent time around people telling you they're easy. People who haven't actually accomplished much. You need to stop listening to these people.
So that's your cope? Neoliberalism keeps losing because politics and policy are hard?
If you could please let me in on your wealth of knowledge, answer the following questions and I can do my own research from there:
Your worldview exists a dichotomy which is why your understanding of this issue is poor. Fracking obviously can be done in a way that is detrimental to the environment and public health. However, most of the negative effects of fracking can be minimized through regulation and heavy enforcement of best practices. The majority of the world either is currently going through or has yet to begin the industrial revolution, which means they get most of their energy from burning wood and coal. They will need natural gas as a transitional fuel source to get off of coal. Our country will need natural gas if we are going to make the transition to powering our economy with wind and solar energy sources until we solve the energy storage problem. For this reason the benefits of fracking outweigh the costs at this time.
If by "neoliberalism" you mean "smart policy backed by the majority of experts", then yes.
Depends on how it's done. Properly regulated it poses minimal risk, and is objectively better than mining/burning coal.
Very little if done correctly. Certainly less than the current alternative of mining/burning coal.
From a single country's production increase? Very little. Most of the top exporters like Qatar and Norway are doing fine, and those that aren't are far more easily explained by other circumstances such as sanctions.
These questions only make sense if the alternative is some magical zero risk/solution energy source and highlight how little thought you put into this.