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[–][deleted]313 points5 years, 2 months ago
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[–]WarLordM12314 points5 years, 2 months ago

Rip and tear?

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[–]Dusty602 points5 years, 2 months ago

Based

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[–]DemonsSingLoveSongs-5 points5 years, 2 months ago

Well, Biden doesn't believe in evidence-based policy (like Medicare for All producing better health outcomes, fracking being bad for the environment, imperialism impoverishing the wold), so why would the voters?

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[–][deleted]1 point5 years, 2 months ago

Medicare for all

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[–]akcrono8 points5 years, 2 months ago

Do you honestly believe this nonsense? Or are you just shitposting?

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[–]DemonsSingLoveSongs-2 points5 years, 2 months ago

All three examples I gave are true.

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[–]akcrono11 points5 years, 2 months ago* (edited 8 minutes after)

Medicare for all cannot pass, so it's not a better outcome than something greater than zero.

Banning fracking will lose PA, so it's a stupid policy. Natural gas is also a requirement for the rollout of renewables, since peaking power will be required until grid storage technology becomes feasible.

"Imperialism" is somewhere between absurdly hyperbolic and just absurd, and "impoverishing the world" is objectively wrong

So no, none of the examples you gave are true.

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[–]DemonsSingLoveSongs-4 points5 years, 2 months ago

OK, so for the first two they are only not true because of the peculiarities of the political system? I tend to put objective fact over politics, but that's just me.

You can get natural gas from other places; there is as of yet no need to pump harmful substances into the ground to extract it. But of course the fact that the increased domestic production of fossil fuels, no matter how harmful to the environment, has destabilizing effects on oil and gas exporting countries is a feature.

As for the lifting out of poverty that only happens due to the efforts of anti-imperialist governments like China and Bolivia (under Morales). When their very expensive government programs to alleviate poverty are excluded, the median person in non-Western countries is actually getting poorer.

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[–]akcrono6 points5 years, 2 months ago* (edited 4 minutes after)

OK, so for the first two they are only not true because of the peculiarities of the political system? I tend to put objective fact over politics, but that's just me.

Turns out being able to implement a policy is part of the "objective fact" surrounding that policy. Democrats know this, which is how they have gotten millions more insured and saved thousands of lives, while the M4A or bust crowd is at a solid 0/0.

You can get natural gas from other places; there is as of yet no need to pump harmful substances into the ground to extract it.

At least admit you don't know much about fracking and change the subject. Christ.

But of course the fact that the increased domestic production of fossil fuels, no matter how harmful to the environment, has destabilizing effects on oil and gas exporting countries is a feature.

Or economics.

As for the lifting out of poverty that only happens due to the efforts of anti-imperialist governments like China and Bolivia (under Morales)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh god, China is "anti imperialist". Thanks for that laugh.

When their very expensive government programs to alleviate poverty are excluded, the median person in non-Western countries is actually getting poorer.

as usual with this nonsense, [citation missing]

Look, I get it. Politics and policy are hard, and you've spent time around people telling you they're easy. People who haven't actually accomplished much. You need to stop listening to these people.

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[–]DemonsSingLoveSongs1 point5 years, 2 months ago* (edited 5 minutes after)

So that's your cope? Neoliberalism keeps losing because politics and policy are hard?

If you could please let me in on your wealth of knowledge, answer the following questions and I can do my own research from there:

  • Fracking is harmful to the environment? Yes/No
  • Harmful substances are released in fracking? Yes/No
  • A national economy heavily reliant on the export of a certain natural resource is affected negatively if the global market price of that resource drops? Yes/No
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[–]Brunsy896 points5 years, 2 months ago* (edited 8 hours, 24 minutes after)

Your worldview exists a dichotomy which is why your understanding of this issue is poor. Fracking obviously can be done in a way that is detrimental to the environment and public health. However, most of the negative effects of fracking can be minimized through regulation and heavy enforcement of best practices. The majority of the world either is currently going through or has yet to begin the industrial revolution, which means they get most of their energy from burning wood and coal. They will need natural gas as a transitional fuel source to get off of coal. Our country will need natural gas if we are going to make the transition to powering our economy with wind and solar energy sources until we solve the energy storage problem. For this reason the benefits of fracking outweigh the costs at this time.

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[–]akcrono2 points5 years, 2 months ago

So that's your cope? Neoliberalism keeps losing because politics and policy are hard?

If by "neoliberalism" you mean "smart policy backed by the majority of experts", then yes.

If you could please let me in on your wealth of knowledge, answer the following questions and I can do my own research from there:

Fracking is harmful to the environment? Yes/No

Depends on how it's done. Properly regulated it poses minimal risk, and is objectively better than mining/burning coal.

Harmful substances are released in fracking? Yes/No

Very little if done correctly. Certainly less than the current alternative of mining/burning coal.

A national economy heavily reliant on the export of a certain natural resource is affected negatively if the global market price of that resource drops? Yes/No

From a single country's production increase? Very little. Most of the top exporters like Qatar and Norway are doing fine, and those that aren't are far more easily explained by other circumstances such as sanctions.

These questions only make sense if the alternative is some magical zero risk/solution energy source and highlight how little thought you put into this.

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