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submitted 4 months, 2 weeks ago by Kousuke-kun to /r/ffxivdiscussion (53.5k)
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[–][deleted]15 points4 months, 2 weeks ago

this...is not good.

All those venue ads you hate? Everyone there uses Mare, to the point console players often felt a bit excluded since we couldn't see the characters they saw. But every venue had a syncshell, every single one.

This will probably destroy venue culture as well as a lot of player's reason to play the game, leading to significant unsubs or just less interaction with the game overall.

not sure how harsh damage is overall, there will be loyal players but Dynamis might get even more hammered as it was becoming an alternate venue hub.

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[–]pupmaster14 points4 months, 2 weeks ago

this...is not good.

All those venue ads you hate? Everyone there uses Mare

Seems good to me

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[–]Salt-Currency200710 points4 months, 2 weeks ago

Maybe without the venue crowd padding sub count, SQEX will see how bad things are for their actual video game /copium

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[–][deleted]10 points4 months, 2 weeks ago

but they can't draw those players back, mare was kind of massively expanding character customization. plug ins in general actually have been shoring up weaknesses in the game, but i dont think SE can redo Mare like they could adapt others.

like what can they do in compensation, make more savage raids? lol

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[–][deleted]10 points4 months, 2 weeks ago

They can start by making the jobs more fun

If the game cannot survive without gooners, it doesn't deserve to survive

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[–]dadudeodoom3 points4 months, 2 weeks ago

Preach. If the game isn't a game and you have to practice a bit to get better idk. If it has any sort of combat growth, including player growth should be involved... And that requires having some way to experience the fights. As it is most jobs interact with a fight the same way as watching a yt video of the fight. Aka nothing meaningful or special.

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[–]Salt-Currency20072 points4 months, 2 weeks ago

I don't think it's very likely, but it's possible that if the RP/Venue/G-poser crowd is large enough, CBU3 could likely have some inaccurate impressions about the game's performance in certain regards depending on these crowds' engagement with the game.

It's a really nebulous topic though and we can only really speculate things like:

  • What portion of those crowds regularly engage in battle content?
  • How much more/less likely are those players to stay subbed between patch cycles?
  • Do these players spend more/less on the cash shop?

They likely have internal statistics regarding these topics that we'll never see so we can't know how robust or accurate they are. At the end of the day, my initial comment was mostly snark. I really do wish Mare users well, and hope they aren't so negatively affected by this that they can't enjoy the game anymore.

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[–]LockelyFox6 points4 months, 2 weeks ago

As someone who has been in many, many MMORP communities throughout the twenty+ years I've been playing them, I can answer this with certainty.

RPers are often the second people in PF to get the new glams, hairstyles, and fashion accessories right behind the hardcore raiders (there's also decent crossover), but unlike the hardcore raiders who leave once they've exhausted their content for the patch, RPers stay and make their own content.

They are more likely to dump money on cosmetics because cosmetics are half the point. Yes, you can use Glamourer to ape the items, but people know that people without Mare couldn't see the items if you weren't actually wearing it, so you'd acquire the paid items anyway.

I also know that when you chase away your RP community, your MMO is in a lot of trouble.

When content dries up, when games go into maintenance mode, when the servers are ten minutes from shutdown, the only constant is that your RPers are the ones still there. Chase them off and you lose a ton of easy, secure, and stable income.

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[–]Yoshira_Resch2 points4 months, 2 weeks ago

The good venues will adapt and overcome this challenge

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[–][deleted]14 points4 months, 2 weeks ago

Wont matter when the people won't show up. Nothing was stopping them from running non-synchshell venues as it was if pure RP or social was a draw for people.

it might shrink a lot, and it might be hard for a lot of venue owners to want to go to text only. idk i need to ask ppl in game. imma vanilla console player but it was big.

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[–]dreffen1 point3 months, 4 weeks ago

what_a_shame.mp4

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[–]shizuo-kun111-4 points4 months, 2 weeks ago

Less ERP’ers is always a good thing.

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