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Especially since healing as a hybrid in leveling dungeons is just having a set of int/spirit gear and downranking heals appropriately.
I get not having that when you run Deadmines, but if you haven't cobbled something together by SM, I'm giving you the side eye.
I've had 3 warriors in upper 30s lower 40s now say they don't have a shield. How is that even possible? I get not having a great shield, but none at all? Unless it's just a convenient excuse when you don't want to tank
That one blows my mind even more, I've seen it too. I've joined groups where its 2 warriors and they're looking for a tank for upwards of an hour. Even if tanking isn't the most exciting, surely running the dungeon is more fun than standing around and spamming Trade for that long.
what blows my mind even more is you dont even need a shield to tank pre 50. I've had so more tanks rock a 2h for small-medium pulls and bosses the whole way up so far. Shields are for doing massive pulls and aoe.
No. Shields are to ensure stability and not drain the sanity of the healer.
As a healer - I enjoy a challenge. I personally hate orc racial healing debuff.
Wait horde racial healing debuff?
Orcs can increase damage at the cost of 50% less healing
Yea, I don't mind healing a warrior tanking with a 2-hander, as long as we're appropriately leveled for the dungeon.
I categorically do not heal any orc who pops Blood Fury. If they die, they die.
I too refuse to heal when they pop that. I’m not going OOM for that shit.
My favorite Blood Fury story so far is, I'm running Uldaman. We are a bit underleveled but things are going ok. Group comp is me Druid healing, Warrior tank, and Warrior, Shaman and Warlock dps.
Warrior is doing OK keeping aggro, but I notice he's struggling against the Shaman/Warrior with windfury. DPS Warrior is of course full WW axe + WW totem, thinks he's the Titans' gift to the horde. And he pops. blood. fury. on. cooldown.
I tell him "I am not healing you when BF is active." And he goes off on me. "Go back to retail. You retard. Git gud." I don't respond, next few pulls he pops BF again, pulls aggro, almost dies. I do not heal him. He bandages up and I think the shaman is his buddy. Shaman heals him.
Tank whispers me - "If he says shit again, we're kicking him."
We hobble through the dungeon. The BF's are fewer and farther between. We reach final boss. Wipe at like 5%. Again. Wipe at 5% again. What the hell is going on?
Warlock posts damage meter.
Dps Warrior - "THOSE ARE THE WRONG METERS! Everyone knows it's TOTAL DAMAGE that matters. I'm on top of TOTAL DAMAGE, I'm the best." Posts meter for entire dungeon, smugly. He's at the top.
We're all frankly too dumbfounded to say anything. Tank kicks him, Warlock gets a lvl 55 priest buddy and we finally kill that damn boss.
Since then, whenever I see an orc pop blood fury, I think of that Dps Warrior, and how he was using BF to pump his numbers up on trash because he thought being DPS meant doing the most total damage in the entire dungeon.
Exactly. Two hand tanking uses up so much of my mana as a Priest, because the warrior takes too much damage.
I mean, the ZF spellcleave groups boggle my mind too. Ran a handful of quests while just watching this one guy spamming for a mage, a warlock and a healer for ZF GY.
Not only is that run insanely boring, if you can't put it together then I promise just doing the actual instance will be more XP per hour.
I don't even understand the XP/hr obsession. Why are 50s doing ZF when they could already be farming Mara for their endgame items?
Why does XP/hour matter at all to anyone who isn’t streaming competitively? And if they are, that’s fine, but they probably have been 60 for two weeks now. No one who is lvl 45 has any reason AT ALL to care about xp/hour. It literally doesn’t make any sense.
They are bad, that's how. Switching to your shield during leveling will save your ass so many times. Hell, at some point, you may be better off leveling with your shield out. Warriors have shit for survivability early on.
This. I sold my Smite's Hammer to afford Expert Alchemy, and I've been using Cruel Barb and a shield ever since. I die much less now, and the damage isn't substantially lower. Plus, the shield bash interrupt for casters is so clutch.
I was running Ulda when I noticed I was spending a shitton of mana on healing during trash pulls, like I just could not keep up and wasted so many potions. Finally after a wipe, our rogue asks the warrior tank why they were not using a shield. Our tank says that they do not have one. I was so frustrated, like no wonder I'm throwing a heal on you every 5 seconds and you can't hold aggro.
I strongly believe that Ulda is the first reality check when it comes to tanks. The tank makes or breaks an Ulda run.
Tbh i leveled my warrior as fury back in the day and just dw tanked when needed to tank it is not optimal maybe but it is still possible to do good enough job as tank even without shield.
But yeah i am again leveling a warrior and this time i am keeping a shield around for running dungeons and i mainly look as a tank for groups
I mean you really don’t even need a shield to tank. I’ve been tanking dungeons up to 55 with 2hand and specced arms and have had hardly any issues at all as long as I get a second to get threat when I pull.
They vendor them for mount gold
True dat, I always keep a healing set on me when doing a dungeon. You never know, the healer might leave or what ever.