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DiscussionPopular iOS Reddit client Apollo will shut down on June 30.(reddit.com)
submitted 2 years, 7 months ago by SkyGuy182 to /r/apple (6.3m)
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[–]MasterVahGilns196 points2 years, 7 months ago

Any chance of being able to side load the app and use our own personal API keys? I was under the impression there was no cost to a personal one

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[–]MasterVahGilns42 points2 years, 7 months ago

Of course, and while I’d rather not use Reddit at all, as long as I’m not giving them a dime I don’t feel as though I’m compromising my morals towards how I feel towards the company

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[–]SoraUsagi3 points2 years, 7 months ago
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However they still get ad revenue from you wherever you scroll by one of their ads

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[–]MasterVahGilns13 points2 years, 7 months ago

No ads on Apollo or desktop Reddit with a proper adblocker

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[–]angry_old_dude40 points2 years, 7 months ago
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I'm not expert on this but my understanding is that personal keys would be rate limited. I'm prepared to be wrong about that.

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[–]bdonvr57 points2 years, 7 months ago

From what we've heard free keys should cover the average user's usage

But I don't think Apollo is going to be capable of this. Maybe some other app will go open source and make this possible

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[–]angry_old_dude11 points2 years, 7 months ago
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Thanks for the clarification.

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[–]whimz335 points2 years, 7 months ago
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I thought in the big post by the Apollo dev, he linked to the source code in order to demonstrate something.

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[–]bdonvr13 points2 years, 7 months ago

Source code of the server backend he uses for notifications, not the whole app.

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[–]whimz333 points2 years, 7 months ago
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Ah yes, my mistake.

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[–]TheodoeBhabrot5 points2 years, 7 months ago
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They are but it’s 1000/10 minutes which is a ton for the average user

According to the clowns at Reddit and confirmed my the Apollo dev the average use on Apollo uses 345/day(might have that number wrong I’m pulling from memory)

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[–]spidenseteratefa2 points2 years, 7 months ago

There are currently API rate limits. The rate limits currently in place by Reddit is 60 requests per minute per user, so 86,400 per day.

The average usage by Apollo users is 345 requests per day.

Limits are a non-issue.

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[–]angry_old_dude1 point2 years, 7 months ago
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lol.

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[–]Artillect18 points2 years, 7 months ago

I might be wrong but the way the API used to work is that both you and the app would have an API key, and they'd be used together to access reddit. After the API changes, only the app's API key will exist, so you'd need to pay for it to use the API

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[–]arkaodubz8 points2 years, 7 months ago
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I mean if there were a version that could accept user API keys it would be pretty trivial to register it as a new ‘app’ and plug in your new app / user API keys.

The real problem is, if this were possible, a bunch of people would do it, and then reddit would inevitably clamp down on the free API access as they have the same issue of people using it without paying or looking at ads. Not to mention we’d be coasting on an old version of Apollo that would inevitably fall into disrepair as both phone OS changes and reddit API changes roll through.

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[–]polopolo053 points2 years, 7 months ago
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then reddit would be truely dead.

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[–]shannister1 point2 years, 7 months ago

Honestly the solve imo is that Reddit should offer a subscription to users so they can use any client they want, without charging the client itself.

The fact they’ve handled this terribly aside, I am partial to the fact we are basically making it impossible to get advertising revenue while costing money to the app. Conceptually, it’s not totally unfair for me to buy a, say, $3 a month subscription to Reddit, which basically covers some of the ad revenue losses and API costs. Link that to gilding value and I’d be ok with it.

This way would not mess with the app - if anything it would allow them to thrive without fear that their business model will be impacted by future price changes.

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[–]darthjoey913 points2 years, 7 months ago

There’s stuff that Apollo does that would require more than that. Like it has actual push notifications because it regularly checks for new messages, and then pushes the notification.

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[–]memcpy_s2 points2 years, 7 months ago

Or just extract the API keys from the official Reddit app and patch them into Apollo, ReVanced style. Can’t wait for that to begin!

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[–][deleted]1 point2 years, 7 months ago

u/iamthatis answered this in another thread and in short, no, it’s not possible.

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