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Announcement 📣📣 Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing. Bad news for third-party apps, their announced pricing is close to Twitter's pricing, and Apollo would have to pay Reddit $20 million per year to keep running as-is.(self.apolloapp)
submitted 2 years, 7 months ago* (edited 2 weeks, 5 days after) by iamthatisApollo Developer to /r/apolloapp (733.5k)
Hey all,
I'll cut to the chase: 50 million requests costs $12,000, a figure far more than I ever co...
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Ugh. This is insane. When Twitter pulled this shit and rug-pulled third party clients (the only way I tolerated their platform) I took the hint and left. It would be hard to replace Reddit, but I guarantee I’d use it nearly zero without Apollo.
If this is about ad revenue I’d be perfectly fine with a system where Apollo could show Reddit ads. I just don’t want to use their psychotic, bottom of the barrel native web and app interfaces.
Yeah, when Tweetbot stopped working I stopped using Twitter. If Apollo goes so goes Reddit.
Ayy fellow tweet it user. Bought that back in like 2010. They shut that down and I was done with Twitter. Shut appolo down, and I'm done with reddit. Then I'll have NO social media ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I don’t miss it tbh. I’ve logged in on my PC every now and again but never feels like I’m missing anything.
When Tweetbot got canned I went from posting 20/30 times a day to maybe 6 total since then. And half of those are telling people where to find me on Mastodon.
Same here. I dropped twitter and moved to mastodon (I’d already been on mastodon but didn’t use it much) when tweetbot suddenly stopped working. If they still with these api costs and Apollo stops working or becomes ridiculously expensive to cover the costs, I’ll just ditch Reddit too. No fucking way am I kidding my subs (one with over 80k members) from the shit show of the official app.
Fuck that dude, I don’t want to see any Reddit ad revenue bullshit. The beauty of Apollo Ultra was seeing the forum as it is, not with someone pushing some cheaply made crap on me with every click.
Reddit has to make money somewhere. I totally understand ads. You can get rid of them by buying Premium.
I'd take seeing ads in Apollo over losing it completely. I might even be willing to pay for Premium to get rid of them. Instead they're yanking the whole thing and making me question staying here at all.
some of us used to regularly buy gold until they changed the name to 'premium' & jacked up the price
Unfortunately pushing cheaply made crap on us is the foundation of most web services.
You can’t have a free web app used by millions without ads, and you can’t have fairly open content restrictions without lowering the standards for advertisers
And all of the abuse of personal data that comes with the way Reddit does ads.
And the disrespectful user experience around ads, where you can’t block specific advertisers (“he gets us”) and Reddit won’t take any of your signals as input into which ads you see - won’t allow up/down votes or blocks or comments.
If you want to vomit, go look at twitter. They've got video spam ads that repeat like every fourth message. it's unusable.
One of the best things about Apollo is not having to look at ads. If there’s ads, I’m not using it and definitely not paying for it.
It's not (primarily). Reddit wants to control the experience, and obscene pricing is a way to kill the API without the same degree of backlash that Twitter got.
Could you please explain further about the difference in tracking on the app vs the browser ? I always assuming they were equal in that respect. Thanks.
That isn’t really true except that it’s easier to run adblockers on the browser which blocks most telemetry.
I moderate a niche community and there are few resources to talk with others anonymously and get help. Reddit is the best place currently, but apparently not for long.
Reddit is already getting annoying with heavy-handed mod activity. I guess I’ll just leave completely if they push this. Let the bots have the platform.
The Reddit site and app sucks so hard.
Official twitter app is nearly unusable compared to tweetbot. I’ll grant that Reddit’s official client is even worse.
Agree to disagree. Twitter’s official app doesn’t even show you tweets from people you follow in chronological order, at least not by default and all the time without jumping through hoops.
They did fix that bug, it stays on the "Following" tab pretty reliably now.
Not that I enjoy defending Twitter, but they did at least fix that.
How frequently?
So, it’s changed now so have you two tabs, “for you” which shows recommended stuff and “following” which is chronological order.
But before [Elon] it was just 1 button press and it never changed off aside from 1 update and if you accidentally pressed it.
But also notifications keep breaking, I get them pushed to my phone but sometimes I can’t see them in the app. As in like some service needs to be restarted daily.
There’s also ads in the comment section now, and if you scroll further down in the comment section you start getting recommended random tweets