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DiscussionWarframe Snubbed at The Game Awards?(self.Warframe)
submitted 1 month, 3 weeks ago by Techman-:MasteryRank:LR 4 | Tenet Xoris, when? to /r/Warframe (929.8k)
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Checking The Game Awards 2025 nominees, Warframe is not even mentioned for [Best Ongoing](https://th...

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[–][deleted]26 points1 month, 3 weeks ago

The thing is, sports have objective metrics. An athlete being the fastest, scoring the most points, intercepting the most shots, etc - these are all objective metrics that can be measured.

But “best” music? Art? “Direction”? Narrative? These are all highly subjective categories. We use these categories because “most revenue” and “best selling” would be the same games every year (Fortnite, Roblox, whatever is the latest COD/Battlefront/etc, Pokemon).

So once you’re already judging by subjective metrics to avoid the big players just monopolizing it, it seems silly to then let a different game monopolize it just because it’s a great indie game. There were a TON of great games this year - are you really going to suggest that E33 is objectively the best of all of them in all of these categories?

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[–]Okumara2 points1 month, 3 weeks ago

That's a fair point (the objective metrics). That being said, if we look at the recent awards for the MLB season that just concluded, many of the awards defied statistical logic. A player that should have gotten a Gold Glove award (a defensive award) didn't get it despite having better defensive stats. Panels and fan voting do not go hand in hand.

I think E33 is a rare case that we don't get to see often, and I would argue that it deserves to, at the very least, be in the categories it is nominated for. I think for a game to be in the GOTY nomination there also needs be some very strong individual aspects of it to get there. So, in theory, I think it makes sense to have an overwhelming presence.

I don't think E33 being in those categories is objective, it is voted in which means subjective, right? The panelists feel that it should be in that category. And, to just play to the scenario, if we say E33 wins them all, that doesn't mean it is better, it just means that voters feel it was better, not that it is an objective fact that you can fact check through a legal bill or anything. I feel that is subjective, no?

That being said, if it is anything like last year, they have a bunch of unqualified panelists having far too much of an opinion so it's best to just treat it as an entertainment event rather than the results being "truth".

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[–]ops10:Styanax: What debuffs?1 point1 month, 3 weeks ago

Try the same example but with Lord of the Rings and Oscars?

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[–]Novasoal0 points1 month, 3 weeks ago* (edited 5 hours, 43 minutes after)

E33 is not an indie! Stop saying this! It's published by Kepler Interactive! It's a great game, you dont need to put artificial feathers in its cap. (I'm not actually made about this despite the exclamations but Indie has become such a nothing term because its been abused to hell)

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[–]DionxDalai1 point1 month, 3 weeks ago

It's developed, not published by Sandfall Interactive.

The publisher is Kepler Interactive

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[–]Novasoal1 point1 month, 3 weeks ago

shit you're right, ill update that. Thanks for catching that!

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