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Us gays being drama queens? That never happens.
trueeeee
Tbf being chemically castrated is a little dramatic.
He had a choice between prison or castration. He chose castration so he could continue his work. Unfortunately the treatment impacted his mind and he was unable to continue working which contributed to his suicide.
His treatment ended a year prior to his death. The suicide verdict was done without testing the 'delivery method', the half eaten apple on the bedside, for levels of cyanide. The evidence points to an accident that has nothing to do with his trial and conviction. He didn't continue his work for the government because he lost his security clearance. The cold war was well underway and western governments were quite paranoid about spies.
Edit:Those are the facts of what happened, not a defense of the British government and/or homophobia.
thats the narrative the british government tried to push, and it took them until 2009 to formally apologise for how he was treated.
Damn, only if he were still around to apologise to
He decoded the apology from beyond the grave
they say the british government got an encrypted message back. when decoded, it was a very detailed ascii drawing of which layer of hell they’re going to
It didn't occur to the British government, that the smartest guy in the country could be rather useful in a cold war?
I suspect they didn't know who was when charged locally. And those that could have made it quietly go away saw him as a liability. Terrible, for sure, and somewhere in all of this is a person who made the decision to let it happen. I agree, wrong in every way.
Soooo USA got Nazi war criminal scientist to work on their stuff, but Britain "forgot" about the guy who invented the modern computer?
Also, it might just be stupidity and incompetence. -Hanlon's razor
Ironic, given that Kim Philby, one of the most effective, long-running Soviet infiltrators of UK intelligence, was also homosexual.
Correction: not Philby, but Guy Burgess, also a long-time Soviet agent in British intelligence was homosexual. I got them mixed up.
Was he?
No. See correction above. My recall was faulty - double-checking revealed my mistake.
Gotcha, it happens. Part of the same spy ring, yes?
Turf island has come a long way.
That was the Norm and if I don't miss remembering Germany reformiste his work before the British Government did.
Well after 49 forced castrations became a highly sensitive topic here (unnütze Esser)
America still has sterilization programs in effect and was the inspiration for the not-sees
Nazi Germany copied the US policys for the native and added the assembly-line too it.
If that was the Norm then they wouldve just fallen under the spell of Hitler's beautiful blue eyes.
There was a gay man executed in Nazi Germany for refusing to shrink from who he was. He yelled from the gallows, "Let it be known that queers are not cowards!"
He was Dutch actually, Willem Arondeus.
I know you are just clarifying that this awesome man was Dutch to give credit to the Dutch people, but it sounds like you are saying “he wasn’t gay, he was Dutch, actually” and I got a chuckle imagining Dutch as another part of the LGBT.
LGBTQD+ 🙏
Bruh, I laughed so hard I scared the cat.
The D+ is the best part.
Always played “lesbian or German” but tbh Dutch probably works too
Ah yes, the three genders
Dutch and Non-Dutch
Ist more of a person adjacent thing than genderhood. You can bang an alien and remain straight yet not be accused of beastiality, but the deviance inherent in the Lowlands dares women and men both who consort with its inhabitants to examine every choice they'd made ere that moment. A lesbian is certainly a woman, a gay man is certainly a man, the bisexual know that life's a party, the trans have more questions than answers, and the questioning know that they know nothing.
But the Dutch? There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear, but sometimes there's a man with a gun over there.
https://preview.redd.it/c2htg8vkh09g1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bbc46c368478c6fce82cccd74afacf9664ec1206
This is that “slippery slope” the right wing is always talking about. If you give basic human rights to gay and transgender people, the Dutch quietly try to sneak in
What's crazy is he was actually executed for being Dutch, they had no problem with him being gay.
Burned at the stake on a pile of wooden shoes I hear
I mean, there's a reason Dutch Bros coffee has a rainbow flag logo
And he wasn't executed for being gay. He was part of a resistance cell in Nazi-occupied Netherlands that forged identity papers for Jews and others wanted by the Gestapo. But the Nazis had copies of legitimate identity papers in a building, rendering the forged papers less useful. So he and Gerrit van der Veen bombed the building, destroying 800,000ID cards, or 15% of the records.
You can listen to an interview with the only survivor of the resistance cell, Dutch musician and lesbian Frida Belinfanye here on the Making Gay History episode The Nazi Era: Episode 6: Frieda Belinfante. I highly recommend the podcast, and this season in particular.
Heck yeah.
That's incredible. This might be what gets me to listen to podcasts.
They're nazis. Why not both reasons?
Badass name!
That was reason enough.
ok I’m glad this isn’t just some myth I picked up
Drama queer?
https://preview.redd.it/7zlvmjspqy8g1.jpeg?width=657&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=be5650379f1d6a1e4cfe0aa4caa7b77d52ff2f4c
Us gay men are a strange bunch
Incredibly obnoxious "voice", completely normal person or the type to get gang banged by 20 dudes on a Saturday
Truly a mixed bag
Or all three in the same person depending on the day of the week, aka my former roommate, bless his heart.
“Everything they do is so dramatic and flamboyant. It just makes me wanna set myself on fire.”
Hahahahaha I’m so gf lad I’m reading this on Christmas. Bless you. That’s hilarious
Look at them. So dramatic. It makes me want to light myself on fire.
UK gays, but yeah
Never???? Never???? (Looks for nearest fainting couch)
Lmfao
No way, the theatre being full of actors like you is closer to reality than just being an stereotype isn't it?
I've read in Kevin Conroy's bio comic he had lots of friends that were either from an catholic family or working in theathre.
The AIDS epidemic was brutal for him...