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submitted 4 months, 4 weeks ago by Ok_Perspective9056 to /r/PeterExplainsTheJoke (3m)
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[–]tHollo41141 points4 months, 4 weeks ago

As an English native speaker, the word "Eichhörnchen" is completely impossible to say.

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[–]TomorrowNotFound68 points4 months, 4 weeks ago

As a native English speaker who had to take remedial speech in elementary school in large part because 'squirrel' was too difficult to pronounce correctly, and who is terrible at languages but learned the German world for squirrel from a random German guy over a decade ago, I saw the meme and yelled 'eichhörnchen!'

Also, I think maybe I should be German instead.

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[–]Cologan18 points4 months, 4 weeks ago

You are now a honorary german

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[–]RyanGosaling8 points4 months, 4 weeks ago

Last time I heard this term it was from a documentary about a certain war... 😂

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[–]tHollo411 point4 months, 4 weeks ago

Maybe there's something to "fo sho ko ro do!"

Where are my Whovians?

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[–]ahhhhbisto1 point4 months, 4 weeks ago

My first boss was German and we had exactly this joke! 😅

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[–]gender_eu404ia6 points4 months, 4 weeks ago

Pfefferminz is the one I’ve never been able to pronounce.

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[–]Paweron7 points4 months, 4 weeks ago

Well... that's not how you pronounce it at all though. Like all 3 of these syllables are of.

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[–]rohrzucker_5 points4 months, 4 weeks ago

Ikeh? Wtf Horn? Wrong. Chin? No.

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[–]Zernichtikus4 points4 months, 4 weeks ago

It may not be too bad for you, but it's still wrong.

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[–]ExtremePrivilege3 points4 months, 4 weeks ago

The “Chen” at the end has no English equivalent sounds. It didn’t exist. It’s an impossible word for anglophones to say unless they’re specifically instructed

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[–]one_jo1 point4 months, 3 weeks ago

The closest thing to the German ‘ch’ sound that I can think of is at the end of ‘latch’ maybe. There’s definitely no ‘K’ in ‘ch’ (except for some weirdos who say ‘kina’ for China).

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[–]HATECELL1 point4 months, 4 weeks ago

I guess the closest thing to "-chen" in English would be "-let", as that is sometimes used as a diminutive, for example in "piglet"

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[–][deleted]1 point4 months, 4 weeks ago

There's no "K"-sound in Eichörnchen tho.

"CH" is closer to the English "SH".

I-sh-hornshen is still incorrect, but closer to it.

There are three ways to pronounce "ch" in German. The "K"-Sound is the least common one.

The third is a so called voiceless vocal fricative. You don't have those in the English language, but you might know it from Star Trek. Klingon has a lot of those sounds.

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[–]Training_Chicken82161 point4 months, 4 weeks ago

It's pretty bad. 

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[–]SomeBiPerson5 points4 months, 4 weeks ago

may I then Introduce you to the Bavarian/Austrian Dialect word for the same animal

Oachkatzel which is even hard to pronounce for Native german speakers

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[–]supahmcfly2 points4 months, 4 weeks ago

Oak cat?

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[–]tgrhad3 points4 months, 4 weeks ago

Oak kitten, but yes.

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[–]lizufyr2 points4 months, 4 weeks ago

To be fair, a lot of other dialects' phonetics are hard to pronounce. Eichkätzchen wouldn't be a problem for me.

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[–]QizilbashWoman1 point4 months, 4 weeks ago

Y’all need to borrow Yiddish wewerke, with accent on the first syllable. VEH-ver-ke. Better if you use the Italian r, that is the most common.

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[–]SomeBiPerson1 point4 months, 4 weeks ago

Yiddish is 70% Middle High German

Modern High German uses the Yiddish/Hebrew Pronunciation of most letters which is why Most Dialects which are older than Modern High German sound very different to it

there are Plenty of Yiddish words that have been Borrowed and integrated into Modern High German and most Dialects

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[–]QizilbashWoman1 point4 months, 3 weeks ago

I mean, I know, I speak Yiddish. But we have p t k like Italian, Spanish, or Ukranian: unaspirated.

I find things like Swiss German much easier to understand than Stamdaych (idk how you call standard German).

https://youtube.com/shorts/BQY9fCKIJOk?si=T411Iy470OE3ZKOg

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[–]SomeBiPerson1 point4 months, 3 weeks ago

well yes exactly, Yiddish and most Dialects are based on 1000.year old Middle High German , which is almost entirely incomprehensible to a German speaker that only understands Modern High German

the almanac dialects, so Swiss German, Swabian and Vorarlbergian dialects are still the closest to MHG because the people in these areas Successfully avoided the Nazis Language standardisation plans

so it isn't actually surprising that a Yiddish speaker understands them better

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[–]overnightyeti1 point4 months, 4 weeks ago

Why is it difficult for German speakers? Isn't it pronounced as written?

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[–]SomeBiPerson1 point4 months, 4 weeks ago

the Dialect pronounces every single letter completely differently than in High German

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[–]overnightyeti0 points4 months, 4 weeks ago

So how does that sound?

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[–]SomeBiPerson1 point4 months, 4 weeks ago

..... how am I supposed to convey that through text?

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[–]overnightyeti0 points4 months, 4 weeks ago

You can approximate it with German spelling. I heard several German dialects when I was living in Weimar and none of them sounded like a completely different language. The sounds were very similar.

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[–]Bot1-The_Bot_Meanace1 point4 months, 3 weeks ago

If you want to up the difficulty try saying "Quietscheentchen"

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[–]tHollo411 point4 months, 3 weeks ago

I don't.

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[–]C-H-Addict1 point4 months, 4 weeks ago

Do Germans know how to say it?

Lol I just looked up on howtopronunce and all of them say it differently

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[–]tHollo411 point4 months, 4 weeks ago

I replayed one recording like 30 times trying to wrap my mind around the sound I was hearing for "ch." I gave up.

Speaking of different pronunciations, English speakers say "squirrel" at least 3 different ways.

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[–]C-H-Addict1 point4 months, 3 weeks ago

/j no no no, those 3 are just shorthand for pest squirrel, game squirrel, and pet squirrel

Until I looked it up, I've never heard a native English speaker separating the u and i in squirrel into different syllables, the other differences I took as accents.

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[–]Nelrith1 point4 months, 3 weeks ago

Donaudampfschifffahrtselektrizitätenhauptbetriebswerkbauunterbeamtengesellschaft has entered the chat.

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[–]El-Viking1 point4 months, 3 weeks ago

Apparently I missed my chance to unite the world with my unique power to properly pronounce "squirrel" and "Eichhörnchen".

Admittedly, I'm not sure what to do with the people that call "oil" "earl" but it's probably best to just leave them behind.

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[–]Mobile-Aide4191 point4 months, 3 weeks ago

If you can't spell Eichhörnchen, there's the south eastern alternative to just say Oachkatzlschwoaf.

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[–]GroinShotz1 point4 months, 4 weeks ago

Acorn chin.

That's how I remember this word.

(Not how to say it... Just that it means squirrel.)

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[–]LoboTomiTi1 point4 months, 4 weeks ago

Oachkatzl

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[–]LMay110371 point4 months, 4 weeks ago

As a native English speaker I do not at all understand how this is difficult

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