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I need help. This is me 29F June 21st of the year at my son's first Birthday party. I weigh 266 as o...

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[–][deleted]5 points4 months, 2 weeks ago

She claims to have tried calorie counting, but doesn’t give details about how that went or the methods used. I’m guessing she’s under counting (guesstimating and leaving out snacks) and not being honest about it. What we’re seeing is a decade of eating at least 1000 extra calories per day.

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[–]Rock_Strongo5 points4 months, 2 weeks ago

Well she was off by a whole 100 pounds when she gave her weight and didn't even notice for a while even after multiple people pointed it out.

So yeah... safe to say I wouldn't trust her calorie counting methods.

What she needs to do is have someone else meal prep for her.

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[–]Porcelain-Backbone-1 points4 months, 2 weeks ago

Do you see how everyone else is talking to her? And now look at your approach? Notice anything?

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[–]NICEMENTALHEALTHPAL3 points4 months, 2 weeks ago

You're right, let's coddle them.

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[–]NICEMENTALHEALTHPAL3 points4 months, 2 weeks ago* (edited 3 hours, 38 minutes after)

I'm 220lbs, less than 10% body fat, squat over 500lbs, and a competitive athlete. I don't really care what people look like or what they do, but it's no mystery if you're over or underweight.

Exercise more, hard, eat more vegetables and greens, stop eating processed food, just eat whole foods, cut out dairy and all liquid calories (includes peanut butter and high cal sauces). Eat all the fruit (nature's dessert) as you want. If you're hungry, eat a lb or two of greens (collards, broccoli, green beans) and you won't be so hungry anymore.

Start to think of food more as medicine - My symptom is I'm hungry, 2lbs of broccoli will fix that. Not everything has to taste good. Similarly, a lot of stuff still tastes delicious - Plain baked potatoes are delicious. Diet coke is delicious. Is it as delicious as bacon or full coke? No, but it's still pretty damn good.

I'd also add carbonated water is amazing and zero calorie. Drink that for a week and you won't crave soda anymore, it'll be too sweet.

Also, feel free to use salt as much as you want. When you aren't eating processed foods, your salt intake goes way down, so sprinkling salt over your chicken, steak, or greens, is fine.

Everyone who is overweight or underweight is delusional about what they think they're eating. You think it's not much or a lot, but it is. Homeostasis is easy, change will be hard.

If you're fat, it's because you chose to be fat. Nothing wrong with that, but don't be confused why you're fat. And to be clear, speaking as someone who has been fat (250lbs+, bulking) and skinny (120lbs). You go to the gym for 2-3hours a day and eat right, you will lose weight. How bad do you want it.

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[–]Civil_Confidence58441 point4 months, 2 weeks ago

That was likely on purpose. You don't typo both 266 and 280 when you mean 366 and 380.

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[–]kimitah922 points4 months, 2 weeks ago

It is not appropriate to judge whether or not he counts calories, whether or not he eats anything else. Obesity is a disease, like diabetes, like cancer, like hypertension and many others... Executing an "eat less" comment doesn't fix the underlying problem. What if it happens to you? Would you like them to tell you it's a matter of eating less.... blah blah blah. You are stating your problem and need advice, not someone to tell you "eat less" I am concerned that your attitude is that when faced with a problem. What will the future hold for you, right? If you solve everything like this...

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[–]Veg_Gal5 points4 months, 2 weeks ago

Dude, it's literally a matter of eatings less. I think people tend to overcomplicate things. You don't need to try 1000 different diets or 500 different types of workouts. She already said she tried everything and nothing worked.

It is simply a matter of calories in vs. calories out and also some education on nutrition and what foods will keep you full the longest throughout the day.

And yeah she probably has a food addiction as well and this needs to get addressed somehow.

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[–]kimitah920 points4 months, 2 weeks ago

Text comprehension is not your thing... he said he already tried eating less (counting calories) You have to approach your problem from a medical side, and create new habits. But telling someone with obesity to "eat less" is not the appropriate message.

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[–]Veg_Gal3 points4 months, 2 weeks ago

Someone's self assessment of calorie counting is not necessarily accurate.

Image comprehension is not your thing. The OP is clearly a woman and you keep calling her a him.

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[–]kimitah921 point4 months, 2 weeks ago

It is the text translator that changes the subjects' articles. I am writing in my language and the translator changes it. 👌🏻

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[–]introvert_conflicts2 points4 months, 2 weeks ago

Why do you keep saying he? Like, do you think OP is secretly a trans woman, and you're just refusing to use their proper pronoun or something because you dont like trans people? Can't think of any other reason to use the wrong pronoun so feel free to enlighten me.

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[–]Low-Measurement-24681 point4 months, 2 weeks ago

lots of people who learn english as a second language (even excusing translator scenarios like this case) mix up pronouns. i know some asian languages don’t have gendered pronouns at all and can really struggle to acclimate. definitely worth keeping in mind, especially when someone’s text has other grammar/phrasing issues like theirs, before instantly jumping to transphobia

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[–]kimitah921 point4 months, 2 weeks ago

Hahaha no, I'm writing in Spanish and I have the automatic translator and it changes it. Nothing more and nothing less than a conversion error. I know she is a woman and she is a young girl. If he is trans I don't know. But there still wouldn't be anything wrong with it.

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[–][deleted]2 points4 months, 2 weeks ago

I’m a medical school professor, so no need for the condescension.  Obesity is considered a diseased state by many doctors, but not all.  It remains controversial since it has many causes: genetic, behavior, environment. So what does that have to do with my recommendation to count calories? Do diseases not require treatment? I am recognizing the problem: that her calorie counting is flawed and therefore not producing results. There’s nothing inappropriate about my comment. You’re just looking for a fight. I’m not going to take that bait.

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[–]Low-Measurement-24681 point4 months, 2 weeks ago

i do not believe the other commenter was looking to fight, condescend, or bait you. their comment reads as ESL to me, which makes inferring tone unreliable.

i do believe that you are knowledgable (and reasonable in suggesting calorie tracking), but i also believe that you are prideful, and compensating for human understanding with medical understanding. i believe there are better ways for you to communicate the knowledge you have surely worked hard to attain. especially as a professor, empathy and communication are crucial lenses through which your knowledge will lose or gain a great deal of utility.

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[–]Margalo771 point4 months, 2 weeks ago

Hello! Eating disorder specialist here. I’m very concerned by the tone and sensitivity you are demonstrating toward potential patients. I know this is Reddit, but please model bedside manner for the sake of the field. Calling “bullshit” on OP in that manner is wildly unprofessional. I’d look into your own internal biases/self esteem issues and how they may be impacting your work.

Like others have said, start with a registered dietitian (NOT a nutritionist.) Also, be nice to yourself.

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[–]kimitah921 point4 months, 2 weeks ago

I'm not looking to fight, it's about empathy. I reserve my comments regarding the morality of your supposed profession and seeing what you comment regarding the post. The easy thing is to eat less, if you eat less you lose weight, yes! But when you go back to eating the way you did before, all the effort will not have been worth anything. A rebound effect will occur and your weight will double again. Ideally, you should create good habits, routines that help you improve. And again, if eating less were the solution, how easy it is not... in the practice of a person dependent on food for whatever reason. You will lose weight, yes, but it will not fix your underlying problem. Treatment with professionals, empathy from those around you, that is what improves a person's quality of life and health.

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[–]cubobob2 points4 months, 2 weeks ago

Bruh, what else are we supposed to say though? The only help for OP that this sub can provide is to realize that she is not having a calorie deficit currently. You will lose them kilos fast if you weight that much. No hard feelings, just the truth. And losing weight is more about how much you eat, less about going to the Gym. Doesnt matter if its because of disease, depression, whatever, same answer. Eat less and get therapy for the food addiction.

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[–]kimitah922 points4 months, 2 weeks ago

Guys, with knowledge of the facts, the situation does not pass by eating less, you have to create new habits. You can do a thousand diets, even eat less, but if you lose weight in 3 months and eat again as you did before, your weight will double.

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[–]Fun-Indication46801 point4 months, 2 weeks ago

That’s exactly y u don’t get out of the calorie deficit.. I mean sure ur right they need to make it a habit, but the habit that they’re making is.. eating less😭😂so quite literally the situation will pass if she eats less

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[–]kimitah921 point4 months, 2 weeks ago

Eating less does not help the cause, if you are dependent on food. Because for a few months he eats less and then he eats more again and his weight rebounds. My suggestion is, professional support, exercise, an environment that collaborates and supports, and eating healthy food, and you can eat a lot and being healthy food you will still lose weight. It is consistency and help from a health professional. Not random people on the internet telling the girl to eat less, and that's it, that is not a solution to her problem. If you didn't understand the message. Read all the comments I made about it.

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[–]Fun-Indication46801 point4 months, 2 weeks ago

Then we should emphasize eat less calories since u have to be technical and include every solution that might happen if they don’t continue to eat less (calories😐) but in the end the only solution needed is eating less (CALORIES)

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[–]kimitah921 point4 months, 2 weeks ago

Whatever you say friend. It wears me out to explain to people who will never be able to understand and understand that obesity is not solved only by: "eating less." Oh well. You want to be right, you are right, chick. Your conclusion based on "eat less" 👌🏻and fewer calories.

And if there is no reading comprehension on your part, there is much more I cannot do on my part. Goodbye ✌🏻

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[–]Impressive-Safe25452 points4 months, 2 weeks ago

OP is clearly a woman and respectfully…. No one can defy the laws of physics and maintain weight by magic. Eating less IS ultimately the solution. Obesity is like cancer? That’s wild.

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[–]kimitah92-1 points4 months, 2 weeks ago

Do you know how to read and understand the message? Obviously not. Obesity is a disease and it must be treated as such, as is cancer, diabetes, hypertension.... No one is exempt from suffering from diseases, no one chooses to be sick. Ridiculous He's not talking about maintaining weight, he's asking for advice on how to lose weight....again with your lack of understanding...how great

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[–]LonelyStranger84673 points4 months, 2 weeks ago

No amount of exercise will help this person at this weight. Even if they were capable of significant exercise.

There is literally only one answer and it’s eat less.

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[–]kimitah921 point4 months, 2 weeks ago

No, it doesn't help to just eat less xgod. I already explained it in the other comments, I don't even want to explain it again, goodbye ✌🏻

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[–]Broad_Curve38812 points4 months, 2 weeks ago

It is absolutely not a disease like cancer. This mentality is what keeps people unhealthy 

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[–]kimitah920 points4 months, 2 weeks ago

Hahahaha another one who doesn't know how to understand and read texts. Honestly, I'm not even going to worry if it seems like an illness to you or not. People don't stay sick because they want to... illnesses are not mental. (Have studied)

There are diseases that can be cured and others that cannot be cured, but you can have a better quality of life with treatment.

My approach is very simple: create new and good habits, exercise, treatment with professionals and an environment that helps and collaborates.

And the random people on reddit with comments that don't help at all and are based on hate can go to sleep 🥱 they probably have to go to school tomorrow... kisses

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[–]NewLife_211 point4 months, 2 weeks ago

This is reddit. Reading comprehension is against the rules ! 😂

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[–]kimitah921 point4 months, 2 weeks ago

I already believe it 🫠

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[–]skylerlikeskanye1 point4 months, 2 weeks ago

A disease? That’s hilarious people don’t choose to get cancer but you can choose if your eating so much food that your morbidly obese

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[–]Itzagoodthing1 point4 months, 2 weeks ago

I agree with everything you said, and OP is a *she.

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[–]TheallmightySpartan1 point4 months, 2 weeks ago

Oh no you are about to get it all 😂😂😂

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[–][deleted]1 point4 months, 2 weeks ago

it's not about inaccurate counting. I've been in her position before when I was struggling and a lot of gym bros or people who have been just kinda fat are like "just count your calories!" In theory yes but that methodology for someone super fat does not work.

You NEED to change your lifestyle and the calories will follow. At that weight, F counting calories you're not just dropping 20 pounds. You need simple changes that will last you a lifetime.

The first 50-100 pounds for someone that fat will shed off and STAY off if you make those permanent lifestyle changes.

This is what a lot of people who go "its just calories in vs calories out!" Don't understand. You don't get to that stage because you overestimate your calories, it's because your idea of eating food is completely ruined.

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[–][deleted]1 point4 months, 2 weeks ago

I believe the opposite will be true. I think if you start counting calories, you develop a sense for how hungry you should be on a daily basis. You will build habits around that hard cap to maintain your sanity through the process. Without setting the hard cap and counting, there’s no way to know if your approaching your goal or not.

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[–]Over_Camera_86231 point4 months, 2 weeks ago

Maybe you're intentionally exaggerating, but 10 years x 365 days x 1000 excess calories is 3,650,000 calories. 

A lb of fat is 3500 calories, so she'd actually weigh about 1043 lbs over her nominal weight  

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[–][deleted]1 point4 months, 2 weeks ago

Not exactly how that works, as someone’s increased weight would also raise TDEE

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[–]Over_Camera_86231 point4 months, 2 weeks ago

You said extra so I assumed above TDEE. But yeah I agree if we use her baseline TDEE this is accurate. 

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[–][deleted]1 point4 months, 2 weeks ago

Sorry, you’re correct

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[–]FAASTARKILLER1 point4 months, 2 weeks ago

Or worse, doesnt understand the serving sizes of the nutritional labels and counting once while serving 2x to 3x more

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