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and Revenge of the Sith
And Attack of the Clones if you think about it. Seeing as how Palpatine's plan depended on the Republic using the clone army to combat the separatist.
If you think about it some more, Palpatine is winning all the way up until Return of the Jedi (let's disregard episodes VII - IX). In a way, the bad guys win up until Vader chucks him into the reactor shaft or whatever.
It looks like the good guys are winning because Naboo was "saved," and whatnot. But Palpatine was pulling the strings the entire time. Episode I leads to him becoming the Supreme Chancellor by orchestrating the crisis on Naboo and manipulating Queen Amidala into the vote of no confidence in Valorum.
The shitshow on Naboo paid in dividends because they wouldn't have found Anakin if they hadn't been forced to flee.
Dude quit messing around. Can you imagine if there were 3 more movies after RotJ? That would be sweet…
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I don't know so much that there's a winner but the good guys lose in Rogue One too
do they? they successfully steal the Death Star plans which reveal its critical weakness. Big loss by the Empire there.
I mean if you're talking about the good guys that die on the planet seems like a pretty big loss, I like breathing myself.
They lost so the protagonists of the next movie could win. But the protagonists of that movie die which is like probably the worst way you can lose anything.
Sure the individual protagonists die, but the rebellion (the good guys of which the protagonists were a part of) takes a monumental victory. The opening crawl of A New Hope even affirms this; 'the rebels have won their first victory against the Empire'.
The good guys win in Rogue One.
It was a costly victory and all the main characters of the film die, yes, but their goal was achieved.
To say they didn't win is to negate the whole weight of their sacrifice. They died for that win.
Good guys win, protagonists do not. They die. No happy ending for them. No riding off into the sunset. Dead as door nails
Well, yes, but the win still exists so it's not an instance of the good guys losing.
Depends on how you look at literally dying I'll call that a loss.
Especially after Andor, losing Cassian was bad for the Rebellion.