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28 No Degree, No IT Experience IT But 100% Committed to Cybersecurity(self.CyberSecurityJobs)
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[–]skankslayer69Current Professional4 points4 months, 4 weeks ago

I went back to school when I got out of the Army and landed an internship at a defense contractor my junior year, where I stayed until I graduated, then got hired on as an Analyst.

People will preach that you need to start out at a help desk; however, while anecdotal, most analysts I’ve met were former cops/military (most likely a product of working in the defense industry). Starting at a help desk and working your way up will give you solid foundational knowledge, especially in networking. While it’s a great place to start while looking for an analyst position, it’s not necessary.

The economy is slowing, so it’s not a great time to be looking for a job in any industry, not just ours. If you can, go back to school and get your degree.

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[–][deleted]3 points4 months, 4 weeks ago

I will tell you that with the market crash, people fresh out of the military are absolutely not getting hired anymore. Theyre all having to go helpdesk.

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[–]kiss_a_hacker013 points4 months, 4 weeks ago

I had to explain to my Cyber Soldiers who were counting down the days to get out of the Army and make $125k+, that those days are gone for all but the best of them. Especially if they don't have at least a bachelor's degree and some certifications. Even the government can afford to be picky now because there are so many people that jumped into Cybersecurity as a way to get rich quick.

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[–]TRillThePRoducer2 points4 months, 4 weeks ago

You can get a helpdesk job making 90k just off having a clearance

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[–]kiss_a_hacker011 point4 months, 4 weeks ago

Yes, those jobs exist, but just because you can find them doesn't mean that they'll just give it to you because you have a clearance. I've helped evaluate applications for GS positions and with one position, only 10/~450 applicants qualified for the job on paper, only 5 of those got past the phone interviewed, and zero actually got selected.

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[–]beheadedstraw-1 points4 months, 4 weeks ago

You got that job because of your clearance. Nothing more.

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[–]skankslayer69Current Professional2 points4 months, 4 weeks ago

Keep telling yourself that. We just hired 2 people with no clearance.

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[–]beheadedstraw-1 points4 months, 4 weeks ago

And they probably have actual experience.

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[–]skankslayer69Current Professional2 points4 months, 4 weeks ago

Straight out of school, mouth breather.

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[–]beheadedstraw0 points4 months, 4 weeks ago

What positions? Because right now you sound full of shit telling me a DOD contractor hired 2 security guys without a govt clearance straight outta Compton.

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