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Ask CTIWhy This Sufi Muslim is Demanding 'Internal Accountability' from the Community After Bondi Beach ISIS Attack. Do You Agree?(v.redd.it)
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[–]mogger_70 points3 weeks ago

Umm no 😇. I am a Muslim it's my word . I know it's meaning and I use it correctly.

You are not Muslim you can't lecture me on this .

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[–]Thin-Goal-98022 points3 weeks ago

Everyone knows everything mate,ik that ghazwa can only be conducted in the presence of Paigember Muhamed , and what he orders or any expenditure in his absence is called sariyah , yet , terrorist organisation are hell bent to fulfill ghazwa ae hind even though the proper definition of hind is not confirmed by scholars

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[–]mogger_71 point3 weeks ago

Wtf are you saying I can't understand . Atleast spell the word right.

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[–]Thin-Goal-98023 points3 weeks ago

These are the same words which those muslim missionaries speak of ,muhhmed hijab and all ,so ig it's understandable, drop the exacting nature 🫠

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[–]mogger_71 point2 weeks, 6 days ago

If your English is not good you can talk in hindi . I understand that in Bihar they don't teach you english.

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[–][deleted]1 point2 weeks, 4 days ago

Well, at least in Madrassas they don't teach you to consider the kafirs like your own brothers even wthout them converting to Islam so yk, there's no point in asking the Biharis to learn English first. They'll learn anyway, sooner or later, just like my palsfrom Bihar did.

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[–]Thin-Goal-98021 point2 weeks, 6 days ago

Nah mah english is great dw about it , but if you feel alienated then I can sure bring the gauge down

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[–][deleted]1 point3 weeks ago

Good for you buddy. Please teach the meanings to all the terrorists out there. They don't seem to understand it.

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[–]mogger_72 points3 weeks ago

And they will never understand. Everytime I tried I instantly got blocked. 🤣

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[–][deleted]3 points3 weeks ago

They are not going to believe you. But take care of yourself, you don't want to get labelled as an apostate by them.

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[–]Thin-Goal-98020 points3 weeks ago

Need more people like you

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[–]mogger_73 points3 weeks ago

Thanks bro for understanding me . People are still down voting me even though I am speaking against extremist.

I feel like they are ignoring the individual terrorist and trash talking on the whole muslim community and our religion.

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[–]mogger_70 points3 weeks ago

Those people are actually not religious as you think. They purely act on hatred and seeking revenge. There motivation behind attack is not religious at all

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[–]SoothSlayer662 points3 weeks ago

The motivation is religious. Revenge based on religious differences. Saying generalised statements like “oh they are not REAL Muslims. They are not really religious” prevents discussion of specific problems. Whitewashing such events is I’ll never address this issue and will only motivate the radicals more since they do not receive flak for doing it.

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[–]mogger_72 points3 weeks ago

Bro I have talked with real extremist terrorist people on telegram on insta on session. This is what I have learned from them .

I am a Muslim so they kinda accept me to chat with me . But as soon as they realise I am liberal type sugar muslim they block me instantly

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[–][deleted]2 points3 weeks ago

That's interesting.  How was the conversation like ?

You explained them that it's not the right way and what was their response? What arguments do they use?

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[–]mogger_72 points2 weeks, 6 days ago

Wait let me share you the full screenshot of chat .

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[–]SoothSlayer662 points3 weeks ago

So? How did that matter? My point remains the same - do not whitewash the obvious issue by saying that they are not REAL Muslims. It will just harm the cause of the liberal Muslims like you said.

Also please do not go around talking to radicals around like that

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[–]mogger_71 point2 weeks, 6 days ago

I never said they are not Muslim. They are indeed muslim. Those who say " God is one and muhammad P.B.H is the last messenger of god . "

Murdering or doing any crime doesn't make us non muslim. They make us bad muslim because it is not the teaching of islam . We will still be muslim but bad one .

No I will not stop talking to radicals. This is like a family problem I will never give up on my misguided brothers no matter what they have been brainwashed and they are full of anger . I have to calm them down. I have to make them understand that taking a life of a innocent being will not benifit our community.

I am still with in touch with some terrorist type people. And I pretend to be there friend . Its a good thing I will stay in touch with them . So if some day they decide to plan any mass shooting. And If I will get to know about it . I can easily inform to the local police of that region.

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[–]SoothSlayer661 point2 weeks, 6 days ago

What can I say. Stay safe dude. Never know what may happen. You may get into trouble with authorities, so be aware of such places

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[–]mogger_71 point2 weeks, 6 days ago

I am fine with it . I have done nothing wrong. They can put me on surveillance. I am very sure I am on surveillance 😂 . I have seen many crazy stuff online . I don't fear because I haven't done anything wrong.

I have also helped the cyber police taking down 2 website and a telegram channel related to terrorist groups.

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