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[–][deleted]23 points1 month, 4 weeks ago
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[–]woodelvezop48 points1 month, 4 weeks ago

i 100% can assure you, the average american will end up blaming the dems. Simply for the fact that the average american lacks brain wrinkles

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[–]mcm19912424 points1 month, 4 weeks ago

And it doesn’t help change this narrative that every response is about how Dems caved, but like the commenter said, what else were they supposed to do… I don’t care about critiquing Dems for this decision but as long as we all remember the real enemies are the terrorists in the GOP who forced a vote between healthcare and feeding children

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[–]ExeUSA10 points1 month, 4 weeks ago

Bullshit. Look at the elections last week. The Average American just massacred the Republicans at the polls.

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[–]jyanjyanjyan3 points1 month, 4 weeks ago* (edited 13 hours, 19 minutes after)

I vote Dem, and now I at least partially, if not fully, blame the Democrats for the shutdown. They fought for something worthy but then ended up caving* after 40 days. Wtf was the point of they ended up caving in the end?

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[–]TargetOfPerpetuity1 point1 month, 4 weeks ago

Massacred? If only.

The last 5 governors elected in Virginia were Democrats.

The last 5 governors elected in Virginia were Democrats.

The last "Republican" mayor of New York City was Michael fucking Bloomberg.

Where were the shocking upsets?

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[–]Visible_Handle_37701 point1 month, 4 weeks ago

They did that when it looked like Democrats cared and were committed to something. What the average American will see now is Democrats causing all this mess and chaos for a vote on a partisan issue that is doomed to fail. And they are right about that, that is exactly what happened.

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[–]AppropriateHelp381013 points1 month, 4 weeks ago

Lmfao “people know who to blame” made me actually snort out loud. Are you serious? This is going to be blasted on every news channel as “the democrats kept the government closed for no reason.” We’ve now seen repeatedly how ignorant the American public is for voting Trump in; do you think these bumbling dumbfucks are suddenly going to become literate enough to recognize the intricacies of the situation? No.

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[–]Visible_Handle_37701 point1 month, 4 weeks ago

Not sure we can blame dumb Americans on this one. That message will be correct. The Democrats did keep the government closed, and now that we see what they reopened it for, it's fair to say they did it for no real reason. People should be pissed at the Dems for this, and they should blame them for the shutdown, if this was what they ended it for, they never should have started it to begin with.

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[–]10minutes_late1 point1 month, 4 weeks ago

Either we deal with a little pain now, or a fuck ton of pain later.

Those gutless Democrats gave up the only leverage they had to make today a little bit easier. Now, we're all going to pay the price both literally and figuratively for the next decade at least.

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[–]ImDonaldDunn1 point1 month, 4 weeks ago

I see the talking points are already out.

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